Rofesleg
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The article says they are "safe to run your hands through".
Do you know differently?
Red Faction disgraceful today
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Do you know differently?
motownjunk
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250 Deg C apparently and still let off smoke, although less than normal pyros. And they are also look a bit rubbish, looks like a load of people holding up their mobiles.
Rofesleg
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So the article is bollox then? Not safe to pass your hand through at all?
Or is it just that you will only suffer third degree burns which is better than being left with a charred stump of a hand?
motownjunk
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You can get indoor fireworks that have temp of about 65 Deg C but these cold pyros are over 200
newyddion
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It’s one alternative of many
It would be worthwhile approaching the subject with safer alternatives.. threats of legal action and lifetime bans will just.. stoke the flames
h_m_boro
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You forgot about the wolves and flares.
Nobody should forget about the wolves and flares
uncle_rico
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Should’ve all turned the light on on their phones at the same time. The majority of the stadium would’ve probably joined in.
Nothing will ever come close to the light show for Ali at Old Trafford.
Nothing will ever come close to the light show for Ali at Old Trafford.
the_holgate_roof
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It does seem a little disproportionate to the lifetime ban for the guy who jumped the hoarding to celebrate on the touch line but at least we know they are investigating.
clay
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I just don't buy the argument that pyros improve the atmosphere.
Does anyone think the atmosphere was better at the Riverside after RF set the flare off? Does anyone think the grounds featured in some of the photos/videos posted in this thread would turn into libraries if the ultras weren't allowed to play with their fireworks?
If they did improve things, then I'd seriously consider parking my objections to them, or at least look for a way to use them more safely; there's an obvious parallel with allowing fans to stand to improve the atmosphere. But it all just feels a little self-indulgent and counter productive. It probably looked good on RF's GoPro, and maybe that's what really matters to them.
Does anyone think the atmosphere was better at the Riverside after RF set the flare off? Does anyone think the grounds featured in some of the photos/videos posted in this thread would turn into libraries if the ultras weren't allowed to play with their fireworks?
If they did improve things, then I'd seriously consider parking my objections to them, or at least look for a way to use them more safely; there's an obvious parallel with allowing fans to stand to improve the atmosphere. But it all just feels a little self-indulgent and counter productive. It probably looked good on RF's GoPro, and maybe that's what really matters to them.
newyddion
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It looked good.. something a bit different.. ours was better than theirs.
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FishofContemplation
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You could both do with reading a bit more carefully. Nobody “threw” a flare in the first incident. They fired a distress rocket horizontally across the full width of the Arms Park pitch that killed someone in the opposite stand by blunt force trauma. It was a whole different level of recklessness.
Centralscrutinizer
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And their flare letter offerer got arrested. Result
Flare letter offerer? Wasn't that an REM album?And their flare letter offerer got arrested. Result
Transitarmy
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Pyro, it's about as entertaining as watching paint dry.
If that's want you want, go and stare at the cooling towers over Wilton, lovely white smoke.
If that's want you want, go and stare at the cooling towers over Wilton, lovely white smoke.
*Steam
Transitarmy
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Evaporation
newyddion
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RED FACTION ONLY WANT TO DO ILLEGAL STUFF - I don't think that is the truth tbh. Now and historically Red Faction have wanted to improve the fan experience and have been very successful in doing so and may I add against the wishes of the club. Uncomfortable conversations about ticket pricing, digital tickets seem to have been the cause of the recent breakaway by Red Faction from The Middlesbrough Supporters Forum.. why not stamp their feet a little, why not puff their chest pout a little 15 year of improving the fan experience and then to be ignored or dismissed.
I have said a number of behaviours from a sections of our fans tell a whole different story and it is something that the club should be listening to.. reactionaries on here calling for peoples heads will not change things for the better, not solve any problems and if anything it will make matters worse.
1. KIDS ENTERING THE FIELD OF PLAY - ban em burn em, lock up the parents etc etc etc
- in actual fact fans to want to be closer to the players, they want to feel part of the club that they support, meet and greets, social media interviews, fans Q&A even availability of kits and suitable merch. the membership card could be the step in the right direction but I feel it may fall short.. it does feel a bit like the bare minimum. RVDB & Bangura thing was canny.
2. RACIST INCIDENTS ONLINE AT AT GAMES - ban em for life lock em up, tell their employers etc etc etc
- our club is allowing a space for these hateful comments to grow and fester, our lack of visibility is empowering racist attitudes and behaviours, it's an uncomfortable conversation to be had.. but we are encouraging this with our lack of visibility. we have been poorly advised imo
3. FLARES & SMOKLE BOMBS - ban em, burn em for life lock em up, tell their employers etc etc etc
-our lack of displays and celebrations has inspired a group of supporters to step in come up with the goods and provide some much needed colour noise and excitement.
gone are the samba bands, the foam fingers and the confetti cannons.. big banners, cards and the occasional flare.. with a bit more support and guidance from the club we could get a great balance and give something fantastic back to the fans.
4. COCAINE IN THE COUNCOURSE - ban em, burn em bum em spit on their faces life lock em up, tell their mothers etc etc etc
- it's very much part of british night life/booze culture. exacerbated by horrific queues.. no one can pull more than one pint, the tills aren't clearly defined.. the stands aren't clearly defined.. gambling & booze in a family friendly setting.. i';m afraid they don't mix. we're letting our younger fans down and were not really providing for the older fans.. waiting 15 minutes for an overpriced pint which you cant drink in the stands. football culture is very much fuelling cocaine culture. another uncomfortable truth.
5. FIGHTING BETWEEN FANS - embarrassing fake stone island tvvats.. chuck em in the sea.
- we need more football friends lol.. Preston are canny.. we're allowed at least one football fiend aren't we?