RIP Dr Henry Kissinger

No "rejoicing".
Just no respect to the murderer.
He was like the murderer walking in on his victims funeral.
The overthrow of Allende was like their 9/11.
He supported Pinochet, like Thatcher, who rounded up the dissenters to his military regime and shot them in the National Stadium - then piled up the bodies.
Kissinger was behind that: a vile murderer.
 
I was at a Buddhist place earlier this year and they talk about having compassion and world peace for everyone. I asked their leader about Hitler and Putin, etc, The reply was " they love their family and Children, etc etc"

I find that utter bullocks as these people are just narcissistic maniacs who are allowed/or gain power for their own narcissistic beliefs. We are all different. Just enjoy your own life.
 
sadgit said:
I was at a Buddhist place earlier this year and they talk about having compassion and world peace for everyone. I asked their leader about Hitler and Putin, etc, The reply was " they love their family and Children, etc etc"

I find that utter bullocks as these people are just narcissistic maniacs who are allowed/or gain power for their own narcissistic beliefs. We are all different. Just enjoy your own life.
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A society that values compassion, understanding, and empathy contributes to a more positive and supportive community. Surely that can only be better for all of us.

How many times have you seen the family of a murder victim state they forgive the perpetrator

I’m sure there are twice as many who like to strike vengeance.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
A society that values compassion, understanding, and empathy contributes to a more positive and supportive community. Surely that can only be better for all of us.

How many times have you seen the family of a murder victim state they forgive the perpetrator

I’m sure there are twice as many who like to strike vengeance.
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I agree with that but we shouldn't be celebrating lives of evil people. No mock tears from me.
 
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Having been to Cambodia many times I can confirm what Bourdain said. It's one of the most beautiful places in the world, but one of the most corrupt, harrowing countries I've ever been to. I went to a art gallery in Battambang that was set up by a Spanish photographer who used to Photograph for Unicef, he set up this place to tell the stories of hundreds and hundreds of children he had met who were used in sex trafficking and orphanages. There's something so wild west about Cambodia, anything goes if you have the money.
 
One of history's worst mass murderers, he should have spent half his life rotting inside a cell. It's a sign of a deeply sick society that he never even stood trial.

Bob Dylan will be getting a play this afternoon from me.

Let me ask you a question
Is your money that good?
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could?
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And i'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And i'll stand o'er your grave
'Til i'm sure that you're dead
 

KISSINGER AND CHILE: THE DECLASSIFIED RECORD​

Kissinger pressed Nixon to overthrow the democratically elected Allende government because his "'model' effect can be insidious," documents show.
[Published 2013].
On 40th anniversary of coup, Archive posts top ten documents on Kissinger's role in undermining democracy, supporting military dictatorship in Chile
Kissinger overruled aides on military regime's human rights atrocities; told Pinochet in 1976: "We want to help, not undermine you. You did a great service to the West in overthrowing Allende."
[National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 437]
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KISSINGER AND CHILE: THE DECLASSIFIED RECORD ON REGIME CHANGE

KISSINGER AND CHILE: THE DECLASSIFIED RECORD ON REGIME CHANGE
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Those who werent shot in the Santiago stadium were rounded up in the basement of the central police station were tortured. What was a hoilday camp under Allende - who the USA wanted murdered before his election made him and his ideology popular - was turned into a Concentration Camp. Sounds a bit familiar.
Kissinger, liaised with Nixon and facilitated full US support for Pinochet`s coup, including arms, finance and logistics.
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Norman_Conquest said:
A society that values compassion, understanding, and empathy contributes to a more positive and supportive community. Surely that can only be better for all of us.

How many times have you seen the family of a murder victim state they forgive the perpetrator

I’m sure there are twice as many who like to strike vengeance.
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I think some of us can sign up to that

All we have to do is find a society that signs up too
The balance (IMO) is far away from that in the society I live in
 
Norman_Conquest said:
How many times have you seen the family of a murder victim state they forgive the perpetrator
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Its not very often in fairness Norm, I know it happens now and again. Tbh, I don't know if I've got that in me. An honest society is also something to aspire to, in my opinion.

You can only feel what you feel when someone dies. If its someone who has committed multiple atrocities, I don't see what's wrong with just pointing it out and saying 'good riddance'. Its not like Henry Kissinger's family are reading this board.
 
r00fie1 said:
Murderous war mongering asshole.
Good riddance.
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For me he was everything that was wrong with the US back in the 20th century. The napalming of Cambodia and Vietnam has never been fully investigated and the families of those killed or affected by the genocide have never been compensated.

Kissinger was a person who like Clinton spoke behind a curtain of lies and deception no wonder Kissinger advised the Clinton’s through their whitewater scandal as he had so much experience in “how to spin” almost anything revolving around corruption.

Definitely nothing to get sad about only those who Kissinger passively helped murder should America feel guilty and sorry about.

I visited Vietnam recently— their culture as many might know is one of forgiveness which probably is the only way to move forward but I doubt they’ll be shedding a tear for such ignominious scumbag.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
I will never understand how someone rejoices at the death of another, no matter what their crimes are.
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If you believe they have crimes on their record then the trivial answer to that question is that you rejoice that they can’t add any more. And if you believe in more transcendental things, you rejoice that they have come to judgment.

Either way what is there not to rejoice? The death of a bad man is not a sad thing in any philosophy.
 
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