Rugby TMO

[Smoggynorm]

The interaction between referring and the TMO is fantastic during Rugby Union.
Why can't VAR and referring in football be the same?

 

[SmallTown]

The interaction between referring and the TMO is fantastic during Rugby Union.
Why can't VAR and referring in football be the same?

I guess it's a more stop starting game. And slower. Makes it easier to discussion decisions with the eg whilst play is still roughly in the same place.

But I agree. Hearing the way the officials communicate makes you wonder if football could learn somethinf

 

[Zoophonic]

Makes VAR look ridiculous. Its all about APPLICATION

 

[Boro4life]

Wish refs were mixed up like in the rugby so you could hear the refs reasoning behind decisions would respect them more then.

 

[SmallTown]

Wish refs were mixed up like in the rugby so you could hear the refs reasoning behind decisions would respect them more then.

It helps doesn't it? So many times you think "what's that for?" At least a rugby ref explains. You don't have to agree with it but at least you know their working out

 

[Steer]

Even the language they use is well thought out and controlled. Unlike that Liverpool VAR thing which was like two drunk fans in a noisy pub arguing about a match on telly.

 

[FishofContemplation]

Wish refs were mixed up like in the rugby so you could hear the refs reasoning behind decisions would respect them more then.

Well you could. More likely what you’d hear is all the players calling them a f@@@@ @@@ @@ incessantly (and so preventing them from having that conversation with the TMO in the first place). Probably why they daren’t do it.

 

[FabioPorkpie]

Is it really needed in football? Are there really that many occasions when we are sat thinking ‘I wonder why on earth the ref has done that?!’
Even when they are completely wrong, or we disagree wholeheartedly, we can generally understand what it is they have given a free kick/pen etc for. Most fans generally know exactly what the ref thinks he’s seen regarding most decisions. Football really is not that complicated.

 

[Boro4life]

Another thing why don't we show replays of incidents like penalty claims etc on the big screen put pressure onto the ref

 

[Anton_Berg]

Google 'David Elleray microphone'.
It was just continuous abuse and iirc Tony Adams calling him a 'cheat' (whatever that means).

 

[JackG]

Well you could. More likely what you’d hear is all the players calling them a f@@@@ @@@ @@ incessantly (and so preventing them from having that conversation with the TMO in the first place). Probably why they daren’t do it.

It could be the catalyst for a much-needed improvement in player behaviour, but I won't hold my breath.

 

[1finny]

Is it really needed in football? Are there really that many occasions when we are sat thinking ‘I wonder why on earth the ref has done that?!’
Even when they are completely wrong, or we disagree wholeheartedly, we can generally understand what it is they have given a free kick/pen etc for. Most fans generally know exactly what the ref thinks he’s seen regarding most decisions. Football really is not that complicated.

Another great reason to do it.
Footballers and managers ‘heard’ abusing referees might just force a change of behaviour.

Some of those VAR delays take a long time - there is no reason why we couldn’t listen in.

 

[afcb_acklam]

we waited 5 and a half minutes yesterday whilst var fooked around trying to decide about an offside, absolutely ridiculous!

 

[FabioPorkpie]

Another great reason to do it.
Footballers and managers ‘heard’ abusing referees might just force a change of behaviour.

Some of those VAR delays take a long time - there is no reason why we couldn’t listen in.

To hear what exactly? ‘We are checking if no.9 is offside’
‘His toe is offside’
‘Ok. I’ll give it offside’.

Not to mention 1000s of kids hearing their heroes swear in the background or be abusive to refs. Micing refs up won’t stop that. Properly booking them for any verbal abuse might .

I just don’t think it’s so complicated that we need to hear referee teams discussing every decision.
We are trying to fix the wrong problems. Football wasn’t really broken on the pitch.
It’s off the pitch where the problems are, ie financially.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

Another great reason to do it.
Footballers and managers ‘heard’ abusing referees might just force a change of behaviour.

Some of those VAR delays take a long time - there is no reason why we couldn’t listen in.

You don't need it to stop abuse. You need the refs to show red cards and for the weak as pish FA to back them.

 

[JackG]

You don't need it to stop abuse. You need the refs to show red cards and for the weak as pish FA to back them.

It might prompt them to act via pressure from sponsors. A poor state of affairs but that's the way it is. Refs are incentivised to not show cards as it will 'spoil the game' i.e. upset the TV paymasters. If the advertising and sponsorship revenue was affected then the authorities might change their tune.

 

[1finny]

You don't need it to stop abuse. You need the refs to show red cards and for the weak as pish FA to back them.

Oh, I agree we shouldn’t need it and I get the theory - it hasn’t worked. And many of us have supported what you say for years.
Maybe try something different?

The rules are in place
Expecting different outcomes with the current approach doesn’t seem a great strategy

 

[asredastheycome]

The interaction between referring and the TMO is fantastic during Rugby Union.
Why can't VAR and referring in football be the same?

Yeah but Rugby is rubbish

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

Yeah but Rugby is rubbish

It's been spoiled by constant TMO referrals, that's for sure.

 

[SmallTown]

It's been spoiled by constant TMO referrals, that's for sure.

No