Shocking scenes in Bristol tonight

HundredRoom said:
When you park a boat in a busy London Street and stop people earning a living by disrupting their right to travel in freedom then it cannot be allowed to repeat this summer. I say summer because it seems to have turned in to some kind of street party. It does look like most there don't need to worry about earning a living.
After reading a summary of the bill I don't see anything that takes away people right to protest in a non-violent way.

Could someone point me to the clause which is particularly upsetting them ?
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I would hazard a guess half of those protesting haven’t read the bill. I’ve just read a summary and it has some pretty good suggestions in there.
  • Changing sentencing rules so that serious criminals spend more time in jail before they can be conditionally released
  • Judges will be allowed to consider jailing child murderers for their entire lives
  • Maximum sentences for low-level assaults against emergency service workers doubled to two years
  • On terrorism, the bill creates powers to more closely monitor offenders released from prison
  • Community sentences for less serious crime to address underlying problems in offenders' lives
  • Changes to sexual offences law to tackle abusive adults in positions of trust, such as sports coaches and religious figures
I can’t disagree with many of those.
The main part of the bill which as you rightly point out should not be an issue for genuinely peaceful protesters.
 
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Alvez_48 said:
And so it begins... I've been warning for months where this would all end up.

Stay safe everyone, look after your loved ones and look out for each other.
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I think you are right, our society is a complete mess, and this goes beyond politics as well.

Unfortunately it is going to be a ‘batten down the hatches’ time, particularly when the furlough runs out.
 
FatCat said:
I would hazard a guess half of those protesting haven’t read the bill. I’ve just read a summary and it has some pretty good suggestions in there.
  • Changing sentencing rules so that serious criminals spend more time in jail before they can be conditionally released
  • Judges will be allowed to consider jailing child murderers for their entire lives
  • Maximum sentences for low-level assaults against emergency service workers doubled to two years
  • On terrorism, the bill creates powers to more closely monitor offenders released from prison
  • Community sentences for less serious crime to address underlying problems in offenders' lives
  • Changes to sexual offences law to tackle abusive adults in positions of trust, such as sports coaches and religious figures
I can’t disagree with many of those.
The main part of the bill which as you rightly point out should t be an issue for genuinely peaceful protesters.
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In my naiivity I thought that list was already in place.
I doubt any of the protestors here will protest against any of those changes
 
jam69 said:
They are not all as bad as each other, that's just a cop out, usually to justify voting for the present shower of shyte
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I was forced in to a tactical vote otherwise my vote would have been rendered useless. But that vote doesn't mean I supported the person or party I voted for.
Unfortunately the electoral system for GEs is rigged. Unlike the Brexit vote which was a truly meaningful vote and your vote counted. What a pity Cameron et al treated it with contempt and the British electorate with contempt just for political gain.
 
FatCat said:
I would hazard a guess half of those protesting haven’t read the bill. I’ve just read a summary and it has some pretty good suggestions in there.
  • Changing sentencing rules so that serious criminals spend more time in jail before they can be conditionally released
  • Judges will be allowed to consider jailing child murderers for their entire lives
  • Maximum sentences for low-level assaults against emergency service workers doubled to two years
  • On terrorism, the bill creates powers to more closely monitor offenders released from prison
  • Community sentences for less serious crime to address underlying problems in offenders' lives
  • Changes to sexual offences law to tackle abusive adults in positions of trust, such as sports coaches and religious figures
I can’t disagree with many of those.
The main part of the bill which as you rightly point out should not be an issue for genuinely peaceful protesters.
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Those aren't the things in the Bill ppl are protesting about though are they
 
nowthen said:
Bristolians seem to be the France of England. With the Colston statue and this. They turn out and show the government how they feel.
I often have a sense of respect for the French when they protest, the government there often backtrack after such things.
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Whereas, I have no respect for anyone who sets out to hurt anybody
 
Nobby_Barnes said:
They are not happy living in the labour controlled Bristol who are making all the local decisions on spending and they're kicking off...it's obvious !

There you go I can spin it aswell...
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considering they are specifically stating why they are there, due to a Tory introduced draconian law, then I'm not sure what your nonsense post is trying to prove
 
FatCat said:
I would hazard a guess half of those protesting haven’t read the bill. I’ve just read a summary and it has some pretty good suggestions in there.
  • Changing sentencing rules so that serious criminals spend more time in jail before they can be conditionally released
  • Judges will be allowed to consider jailing child murderers for their entire lives
  • Maximum sentences for low-level assaults against emergency service workers doubled to two years
  • On terrorism, the bill creates powers to more closely monitor offenders released from prison
  • Community sentences for less serious crime to address underlying problems in offenders' lives
  • Changes to sexual offences law to tackle abusive adults in positions of trust, such as sports coaches and religious figures
I can’t disagree with many of those.
The main part of the bill which as you rightly point out should not be an issue for genuinely peaceful protesters.
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what about the right to arrest people for peaceful protesting if someone finds them annoying? What about moving more decision out of westminster and into the hands of the cabinet ministers ? That's the concerning part. It politicises policing and allows the right to protest based purely on your support of the current government.
 
HundredRoom said:
I was forced in to a tactical vote otherwise my vote would have been rendered useless. But that vote doesn't mean I supported the person or party I voted for.
Unfortunately the electoral system for GEs is rigged. Unlike the Brexit vote which was a truly meaningful vote and your vote counted. What a pity Cameron et al treated it with contempt and the British electorate with contempt just for political gain.
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The brexit vote was just as rigged, but at least we agree on FPTP
 
JonnyHistory said:
I depise most of the current administration but there will be a special hatred in me for Patel. She is stupid, opinionated and heartless.

I can only think she has dirt on Boris and co because there is no good reason why she has any sort of actual role in government given her record.
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Absolutely this, she is evil
 
FatCat said:
I would hazard a guess half of those protesting haven’t read the bill. I’ve just read a summary and it has some pretty good suggestions in there.
  • Changing sentencing rules so that serious criminals spend more time in jail before they can be conditionally released
  • Judges will be allowed to consider jailing child murderers for their entire lives
  • Maximum sentences for low-level assaults against emergency service workers doubled to two years
  • On terrorism, the bill creates powers to more closely monitor offenders released from prison
  • Community sentences for less serious crime to address underlying problems in offenders' lives
  • Changes to sexual offences law to tackle abusive adults in positions of trust, such as sports coaches and religious figures
I can’t disagree with many of those.
The main part of the bill which as you rightly point out should not be an issue for genuinely peaceful protesters.
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Go on then....just for balance do you want to quote the rest of it?
 

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UPDATE:
What was a carnivalesque party & protest at the top of Union Street/onto Castle Park at 5pm, has ignited into serious clashes this evening during a picket of Bridewell police station in the city centre. As we left the area around 5pm, it looked like another typical Bristol end of protest party was underway after a successful & huge – maybe 5000+ protesters – demo against the #PoliceCrackdownBill…indeed exactly the sort of protest that is likely to be banned if the new Tory Bill is eventually passed. Bridewell is Bristol’s city centre police station. Outside Bridewell the atmosphere was initially a continuation of Bristol’s party vibe.....

But within an hour this escalated as riot police arrived in 6 vans, along with 4 mounted police, to protect their police station – and clashes developed as protesters refused to disperse. Later as dusk fell, more police with dogs arrived, and more riot police, but protesters continued to stand their ground, and some responded in kind to the police use of force.

What is clear is that many people are furious at the Tory attack on rights won over two centuries of struggles. After a tough winter of lockdown & covid stress, many see the Tory move to introduce the Bill as outright cynical, and an attempt to turn temporary coronavirus restrictions into something more permanent whilst the people remain resticted by the lockdown.

NB: Johnson is reported to be supportive of extending lock-down until October.
 
JonnyHistory said:
Parts!

Vaccine aside what else have the Tories achieved in the last 10/years?

They have failed by every metric they set themselves.

Deficit - up
Debt - record levels
Poverty - up
Child poverty - up
Social programmes - destroyed
Wealth gap - getting higher every year.
Covid - 150000 dead and donors pockets lined.
Brexit - border in Irish sea, trade with EU harder - companies moving to Europe or closing down - no extra money for
NHS - an effective paycut for nurses after a pandemic - underfunded and being sold off bit by bit.

What have they succeded at? Financially, socially, and politically they have been a disaster.
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But their propaganda campaigns are fantastic as still they are leading in the polls. Is it that British people are just dim maybe?
 
FatCat said:
I would hazard a guess half of those protesting haven’t read the bill. I’ve just read a summary and it has some pretty good suggestions in there.
  • Changing sentencing rules so that serious criminals spend more time in jail before they can be conditionally released
  • Judges will be allowed to consider jailing child murderers for their entire lives
  • Maximum sentences for low-level assaults against emergency service workers doubled to two years
  • On terrorism, the bill creates powers to more closely monitor offenders released from prison
  • Community sentences for less serious crime to address underlying problems in offenders' lives
  • Changes to sexual offences law to tackle abusive adults in positions of trust, such as sports coaches and religious figures
I can’t disagree with many of those.
The main part of the bill which as you rightly point out should not be an issue for genuinely peaceful protesters.
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Yes I can see you've taken that list direct from a BBC online article but as per usual you provide no balance whatsoever.

What does the rest of the article say particularly in respect of concerns about the restrictions on free speech?
 
Norfolkred1 said:
No riots just mass unemployment, coffins on the streets along with the bins and how we enjoyed the power cuts. Having been through the constant strikes and having no money due to close shop rules and strikes please forgive me for having a hatred of Liebour and all they stand for. Regardless who is in power they are all as bad as each other and in it for themselves.
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There were power cuts under Heath and mass unemployment under Thatcher, Major and Cameron.

You just hate organised labour. Which is quite a stance.
 
JonnyHistory said:
Parts!

Vaccine aside what else have the Tories achieved in the last 10/years?

They have failed by every metric they set themselves.

Deficit - up
Debt - record levels
Poverty - up
Child poverty - up
Social programmes - destroyed
Wealth gap - getting higher every year.
Covid - 150000 dead and donors pockets lined.
Brexit - border in Irish sea, trade with EU harder - companies moving to Europe or closing down - no extra money for
NHS - an effective paycut for nurses after a pandemic - underfunded and being sold off bit by bit.

What have they succeded at? Financially, socially, and politically they have been a disaster.
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Tories main objective is to divide normal folk and confuse them into voting Tory
There are successful at this
Sad and harsh reality
 
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