Some people on here

Flood said:
And still not one positive of Brexit has been posted on this board. Ever.

And the right wing Brexiters pile on individuals day after day for pointing out its a sh@tshow
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But they don't, which I guess is the point. Only ST, who, voted for the tory government who had one policy, gets dogs abuse, which he gives out too.

All St does is links to an article from time to time, I don't even think he reads them.
 
Paintolerance said:
I think voting Tory is worse.

People had 10 years of evidence of huge increases in homelessness, Food Bank usage, child poverty, massive cuts to public services, but weren't bothered. I think that's a grim reflection on people.

I don't see how someone can then claim to be so concerned about the state of the nation, if their GE vote was based purely on personal circumstance and well being.
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It is for those reasons, totally agree, but that's not what he's posting about.

Brexit will hammer GDP, standards, opportunities, which will make almost everything worse. Even if Labour or anyone else get in, they would struggle to fix that, when the GDP and other aspects are taking a pounding. A big balance with even a clown in charge would mean that most people don't get shafted, but a negative balance with anyone in charge, means most will get shafted.

We did have a recession prior to that 10 years, so it was always going to make lives worse, but of course the Tories would look after their own, more than the others, which I didn't agree with. Some saw the Tories as the best option of getting the GDP going again, whether they were going to be better at that than Labour is anyone gess. My thoughts are growth came through underfunding and exploring those who needed help, but the idea was it was meant to be short-lived, until brexit of course.

Quite a few of the people arguing against him probably voted Brexit and Tory, and are effectively saying "well you voted for it too", which is not totally the case. Or they voted for brexit and another party in the GE that had zero chance, of dislodging the tories which is even worse to me.
 
Laughing said:
But they don't, which I guess is the point. Only ST, who, voted for the tory government who had one policy, gets dogs abuse, which he gives out too.

All St does is links to an article from time to time, I don't even think he reads them.
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As far as I'm aware, ST has said he was wrong regarding his voting choice?

But it seems some people on here are unable to admit they were wrong (regarding the Brexit Sh@tshow) and will defend their way of voting till the end of time. All the remainers on here like myself do is try to explain why Brexit is one of the worst political ideas of the last 50 years.

Any positives of Brexit you can enlighten me with?
 
Laughing said:
But they don't, which I guess is the point. Only ST, who, voted for the tory government who had one policy, gets dogs abuse, which he gives out too.

All St does is links to an article from time to time, I don't even think he reads them.
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But he has achieved his aim of victimhood, sad though it is to watch.
 
Flood said:
As far as I'm aware, ST has said he was wrong regarding his voting choice?

But it seems some people on here are unable to admit they were wrong (regarding the Brexit Sh@tshow) and will defend their way of voting till the end of time. All the remainers on here like myself do is try to explain why Brexit is one of the worst political ideas of the last 50 years.

Any positives of Brexit you can enlighten me with?
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I think brexit is terrible, that's not the point I was making. I am not so sure that posters on here still think brexit is a good idea and I am not sure many, if any have said that.

Saying it has not effected you, is not the same as, its a good thing.

When you call folks thick, racist scociopaths you kinda get whats coming to you.
 
Andy_W said:
It is for those reasons, totally agree, but that's not what he's posting about.

Brexit will hammer GDP, standards, opportunities, which will make almost everything worse. Even if Labour or anyone else get in, they would struggle to fix that, when the GDP and other aspects are taking a pounding. A big balance with even a clown in charge would mean that most people don't get shafted, but a negative balance with anyone in charge, means most will get shafted.

We did have a recession prior to that 10 years, so it was always going to make lives worse, but of course the Tories would look after their own, more than the others, which I didn't agree with. Some saw the Tories as the best option of getting the GDP going again, whether they were going to be better at that than Labour is anyone gess. My thoughts are growth came through underfunding and exploring those who needed help, but the idea was it was meant to be short-lived, until brexit of course.

Quite a few of the people arguing against him probably voted Brexit and Tory, and are effectively saying "well you voted for it too", which is not totally the case. Or they voted for brexit and another party in the GE that had zero chance, of dislodging the tories which is even worse to me.
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Andy I would rather have a recession with good governance than boom with bad governance. In either case with the tories in power any available money goes to tory donors, not the needy.
 
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Andy I would rather have a recession with good governance than boom with bad governance. In either case with the tories in power any available money goes to tory donors, not the needy.
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For the former so would I, but to be honest I don't think Cameron and co were anywhere near as bad as this bunch of clowns. But even if the Tories were not in back in 2010+ there would have been some cuts, there had to be to balance the books. Battering GDP to help the most needy would have been a short term unsustainable fix, and would have driven inflation up (hitting the most needey), but they certainly could have done more. They won't/ didn't though, as their voters don't want them to.

I think I'd take boom and bad governance, to a degree, but it depends how big the boom is, and how bad the governance is, albeit now we have massive bust and massively bad governance (the worst I've ever seen). This current clown/ liar appealed to a lot of the Brexit lot, the bad governance is a result of the horrendous choice on boom or bust.
 
Andy_W said:
For the former so would I, but to be honest I don't think Cameron and co were anywhere near as bad as this bunch of clowns. But even if the Tories were not in back in 2010+ there would have been some cuts, there had to be to balance the books. Battering GDP to help the most needy would have been a short term unsustainable fix, and would have driven inflation up (hitting the most needey), but they certainly could have done more. They won't/ didn't though, as their voters don't want them to.

I think I'd take boom and bad governance, to a degree, but it depends how big the boom is, and how bad the governance is, albeit now we have massive bust and massively bad governance (the worst I've ever seen). This current clown/ liar appealed to a lot of the Brexit lot, the bad governance is a result of the horrendous choice on boom or bust.
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You are right in it depends how bad the bad government are. Cameron may not be as bad as Johnson, but I am not even very sure about that. Austerity was an ideology and had little to do with the recession. Even after the recession, foodbanks increased, police and health workers were cut, funding to state schools was cut and social care is non-existant.

With Johnson, the economy becomes irrelevant, he wants to bleed whatever economy we have.
 
Laughing said:
But they don't, which I guess is the point. Only ST, who, voted for the tory government who had one policy, gets dogs abuse, which he gives out too.

All St does is links to an article from time to time, I don't even think he reads them.
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You probably could have left off the "he reads then" from your last sentence. Yes I link to maple articles. As do others. Stop lying and pretending its just me. I thought I'd warned you about that yesterday when you lied about an article someone else posted
 
SmallTown said:
You probably could have left off the "he reads then" from your last sentence. Yes I link to maple articles. As do others. Stop lying and pretending its just me. I thought I'd warned you about that yesterday when you lied about an article someone else posted
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I don't lie, however often you say it.

I debate in an open and honest manner, you might want to try it.
 
Laughing said:
I don't lie, however often you say it.

I debate in an open and honest manner, you might want to try it.
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you did. You said I brought up the EU/US trade deal in the last thread. I didn't therefore that was a lie. Maybe yo were just mistaken. Given you want to start an argument with me everywhere this seems unlikely.
 
At the 2019 GE sm and cu membership where never on the table. T May put in redlines that block us from the sm and cu. So why would you think voting for the Tories and knowing Boris was now in charged would get us access to them.
 
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SmallTown said:
you did. You said I brought up the EU/US trade deal in the last thread. I didn't therefore that was a lie. Maybe yo were just mistaken. Given you want to start an argument with me everywhere this seems unlikely.
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SmallTown said:
you did. You said I brought up the EU/US trade deal in the last thread. I didn't therefore that was a lie. Maybe yo were just mistaken. Given you want to start an argument with me everywhere this seems unlikely.
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As I said I debate in an open and honest manner, you might want to try that.
 
Laughing said:
As I said I debate in an open and honest manner, you might want to try that.
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You say that. but that was a blatant lie and I called you out on it. Even now you can't bring yourself to admit either you got it wrong or it was a lie. That doesn't sound very open or honest
 
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