Some unpleasant posting on here of late

It comes across to me stu as if, in some cases, tory voters are suggesting alternatives to Labour. For example nobby and his vote green. Others parrot the line that they are all as bad as each other.

It appears to me to be an attempt at limiting the loss of tory seats at the next election by watering down the labour vote.

I don't think they are paid by tory hq
Exactly this - spot on @Laughing
 
Maybe shill isn't the right word but there are a worrying group of people who will defend the Tories and spread their rhetoric but when challenged. Instead of explaining why, they will jsut say "Oh I'm not political" or "I don't vote Tory".
That's obviously a very clear example something isn't right. Imagine wanting to defend the Tories but knowing that they are so toxic you can't admit to being one? You'd have to question WHY you were defending something you knew was wrong
I am not either labour or Conservative but do think both have good ideas on some things. I will be honest my wife use my vote via ballot and ill be honest think she has voted for both parts at different elections
 
I am not either labour or Conservative but do think both have good ideas on some things. I will be honest my wife use my vote via ballot and ill be honest think she has voted for both parts at different elections

Pretty sure that’s illegal….unless you’ve formally applied for a proxy vote.
 
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Just a rebel without a cause my friend also after watching inside the force. Middlesbrough police have more to worry about
 
The board is reflective of wider British society where a culture war has been raging for about 15 years where the political elite of the Tory party and its media cohorts have demonised benefits claimants, single mothers, immigrants, people that think Gaza is under oppression, the European Union, do-gooders, Russia, China, hackers, isis, Muslims in general, non-patriots and a hundred other boogeymen.

That is reflected in discussions on here where a small minority push the government and media narrative with little to no evidence to support it, and those that expect claims to have strong evidence call it out. This happened outside this board.
 
I inadvertently put a cross on a ballot paper for a Tory once. Fortunately realised just in time…when I immediately got a pounding headache and needed to vomit. Something like taking Antabuse and then having a large vodka.
 
Jedi hasn’t posted since the opening post of this thread nearly a month ago.

Hopefully just taking an extended break
 
We had a very divided country under Thatcher - its not just the last 15 years - in fact I would say it was more divided then.
It was a north south divide back then, in an age when most people didn't move away from where they were brought up.

The divide today is much more complex. on the right we have the non-higher education, the left the higher education; on the right the low income, the left the middle income; the right over 50s, the left the under 50s; the right those who don't like the concept of immigration, the left those that don't mind it; the right those that are non-progressive, the left the progressives......but unlike in other eras, this is much more binary rather than a scale, people are extremely entrenched and very little pragmatism and subtlety exists. The nation has a fractured psyche to be honest. I think it a grimmer, darker, more hateful country than it was back in the 80s. Great swathes of people seems to embrace anti-intellectualism, almost as a badge of honour.

Maybe the internet hasn't been the great leveler in access to knowledge, but has been the great leveler in giving the ignorant voice as big a platform as the expert voice; that's really the lasting legacy of the social-media age.
 
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