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Lefty
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Ukraine seem to have helped out the Russian's in this respect. Lots of Russian generals regularly replaced.
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Decent_Left
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A decent step by step analysis on the Crimea campaign your mate has been drip feeding us info on
euromaidanpress.com
Frontline report: Months of strikes set stage for latest missile onslaught on Crimea
By targeting radars and communications, Ukraine has uncovered flaws in Russia's network of Crimean defenses, enabling an escalating missile and drone campaign.
euromaidanpress.com
Here's today's post .... with stuff about what is coming left out.
"Down the streets of Kremlin and over the Red Square the salty tears of Russian politicians are flowing freely.
Almost all of their hard work to influence the west have failed, years of hard work is being destroyed right infront of their eyes, and their vaunted army is in ruins on the battle field.
And Russia, once great and feared is now the laughing stock of the other former post-Soviet republics.
Let us take a walk along the lines of the "glorious Russian victories"
-Victor Orban was hogtied and dumped in a trash can in the EU Parliament.
He was told that if he ever lifts a finger, or ever again try to block votes, he will lose Hungary their voting rights, and all EU funding, for as long as he is president.
And then they showed him the pre-written paperwork, and the voting upon them that was scheduled.
He folded like a wet two year drowned gerbil.
But, the sword is still there over his fat neck.
-EU funded their part of the war with 50 billion. And more funding packages are in the pipeline, plus the weapons production capacity packages that are not written up as "for Ukraine", but in reality benefits Ukraine.
EU + Friends resolve and grit is at an all time high, and increasing.
-EU ripped Kazakhstan out of the clasp of Russia.
And now Armenia has entered the race towards EU.
It is expected that more will follow in their disentanglement from Russia, and towards EU.
-Turkey finally chose sides and closed down all banking agreements, let the NATO ships through for their "demining mission", let Sweden through, and now has stated that they will give all of their Russian S-400 Air Defence Systems to Ukraine.
The last part will hilariously make Ukraine into the largest user of said systems, for some reason Russia has lost that many...
-The US is rapidly finding ways to fund Ukraine, and probably their big package will go through in the end.
And, the Great White Hope of Russia is floundering like yesterdays stale pee in the courts of the United States.
Judging from the US Generals in NATO I take it that they are far less depressed now over things, and between the lines they are now hinting that things are changing for the better.
-The largest Coalition Exercise since WWII has kicked off with a bang as 91 000 EU + Friends Army is creating one hell of a ruccus at undisclosed locations.
An army that is so front heavy with firepower that it is almost warping reality.
-Ukraine is for now out of the woods in regards of supplies, finally.
There's even a 90 day stock of shells that is kept topped up now, that is 90 days of defencive actions, it is roughly 20 days of offensive operations.
It is the German Coallition for Ukraine that performed that particular miracle.
There's new weapons classes, and weapons that have been specifically developed and produced for Ukraine with EU funding, based on new concepts learned in this war, weapons that is so modern that a couple of them have only been produced in the last couple of months, like the AASM BU-64.
-China is flat out refusing to deliver supplies that they previously sold to Russia, and they have cut all banking contacts except for oil/gas/food/medical supplies payments.
This the Russian propagandists cut together into a video stating "China will always support Russia in the Ukraine issue"...
The uncut version was a sad Shoigu begging for things shamelessly, and only on medical supplies he got the go ahead, that was the "issue" that China always will support.
Not even Ukraine opposes medical supplies for the Russian troops, not aiding with that is after all a war crime.
So, when seeing Russian media always look for the uncut version, or you will end up with a rather nasty foreskin in your hands.
-Then we have the Nadezhdin sized problem.
Kremlin is reeling from the support he is getting from the Russian population.
Obviously every single Russian know that he is a Kremlin insider, but by signing for him, and by voting for him they can give the finger to Putin and the War in a fairly safe manner.
Sources within Kremlin states that they had expected him to get the signatures, but nobody had expected the endless lines of people signing up for him in the entirety of Russia.
-This part is brought to you by *****.
Having their ship hit by a missile and oodles of sea drones, and all of it published on video, had a very weird impact on Russia.
But, first we need to clear something up.
It was hit by a missile and that was recorded on telemetry sea drones.
Then the ship was hit by several of said drones.
This was a small ship, either the missile, or a single sea drone, would be sufficient to sink it.
It was a message to Russia, we can now waste resources.
Russia then issued a stream of propaganda posts that was hilarious, stating that Ukraine had done them a favour and that they would now save money, and that surface warships are now obsolete.
By accident Russia almost hit the nail here.
Surface warships in closed waters, or near coastal waters, are indeed yesterdays news unless insanely capable in regards of safeguarding all approaches to them.
Either we will need new and improved ships in regards of their protection, or we need to scrap the idea entirely.
After all there are other better classes of weapons systems to fulfil their role.
Open water ships is though an entirely different thing altogether.
I found it hilarious.
Kherson and other frontlines
Changes have been made in logistics stream, and new offensive concepts have been developed and are already being deployed there.
The limited changes already in place have given immediate effect, and expect more successes to follow shortly on the back of the news that now are being "leaked" into the open.
Tarnovskyy returned today, said "fook me" over what Tank Girl had done, and learned a couple of new tricks.
Since Olexandr has a very good sub-commander he stated that he can take care of stuff while he is off on vacation.
I know him and agree that there is no need to drag in a temp in his case, it is the same dude that did the Urozhaine liberation part.
Normally he would be nicked and given a command, but with Olexandr running such a long and hotly contested past he get to retain his good sub.
The rest of the frontline has no changes, except near a village named Terny in Luhansk where the Russian took two fields.
It is a hotly contested area, and with Ukraine pushed against a river and some lakes there is no manoeuvre space.
And with Zyrskyi fully committed he has asked Tank Girl for a fresh perspective and reinforcements to create said manoeuvre space.
She looked, found the weak spot to hammer at, and sent the appropriate troops on their merry way there.
Otherwise things are satisfyingly going boom in the Russian rear.
So much so that Russia has issued the statistics of their declining export sales of gazoline, diesel and airplane fuel.
In January the decline was a whopping 29 percent according to their own statistics.
Note here that most of the destruction happened at the mid point of January.
Ouch.
Note that crude oil sales is nowadays a state secret in Russia, but we can safely assume that the impact is similar in that regard.
And here is the thing, every single rouble was accounted for to pay for the war, this is impacting war expenditures hard."
"Down the streets of Kremlin and over the Red Square the salty tears of Russian politicians are flowing freely.
Almost all of their hard work to influence the west have failed, years of hard work is being destroyed right infront of their eyes, and their vaunted army is in ruins on the battle field.
And Russia, once great and feared is now the laughing stock of the other former post-Soviet republics.
Let us take a walk along the lines of the "glorious Russian victories"
-Victor Orban was hogtied and dumped in a trash can in the EU Parliament.
He was told that if he ever lifts a finger, or ever again try to block votes, he will lose Hungary their voting rights, and all EU funding, for as long as he is president.
And then they showed him the pre-written paperwork, and the voting upon them that was scheduled.
He folded like a wet two year drowned gerbil.
But, the sword is still there over his fat neck.
-EU funded their part of the war with 50 billion. And more funding packages are in the pipeline, plus the weapons production capacity packages that are not written up as "for Ukraine", but in reality benefits Ukraine.
EU + Friends resolve and grit is at an all time high, and increasing.
-EU ripped Kazakhstan out of the clasp of Russia.
And now Armenia has entered the race towards EU.
It is expected that more will follow in their disentanglement from Russia, and towards EU.
-Turkey finally chose sides and closed down all banking agreements, let the NATO ships through for their "demining mission", let Sweden through, and now has stated that they will give all of their Russian S-400 Air Defence Systems to Ukraine.
The last part will hilariously make Ukraine into the largest user of said systems, for some reason Russia has lost that many...
-The US is rapidly finding ways to fund Ukraine, and probably their big package will go through in the end.
And, the Great White Hope of Russia is floundering like yesterdays stale pee in the courts of the United States.
Judging from the US Generals in NATO I take it that they are far less depressed now over things, and between the lines they are now hinting that things are changing for the better.
-The largest Coalition Exercise since WWII has kicked off with a bang as 91 000 EU + Friends Army is creating one hell of a ruccus at undisclosed locations.
An army that is so front heavy with firepower that it is almost warping reality.
-Ukraine is for now out of the woods in regards of supplies, finally.
There's even a 90 day stock of shells that is kept topped up now, that is 90 days of defencive actions, it is roughly 20 days of offensive operations.
It is the German Coallition for Ukraine that performed that particular miracle.
There's new weapons classes, and weapons that have been specifically developed and produced for Ukraine with EU funding, based on new concepts learned in this war, weapons that is so modern that a couple of them have only been produced in the last couple of months, like the AASM BU-64.
-China is flat out refusing to deliver supplies that they previously sold to Russia, and they have cut all banking contacts except for oil/gas/food/medical supplies payments.
This the Russian propagandists cut together into a video stating "China will always support Russia in the Ukraine issue"...
The uncut version was a sad Shoigu begging for things shamelessly, and only on medical supplies he got the go ahead, that was the "issue" that China always will support.
Not even Ukraine opposes medical supplies for the Russian troops, not aiding with that is after all a war crime.
So, when seeing Russian media always look for the uncut version, or you will end up with a rather nasty foreskin in your hands.
-Then we have the Nadezhdin sized problem.
Kremlin is reeling from the support he is getting from the Russian population.
Obviously every single Russian know that he is a Kremlin insider, but by signing for him, and by voting for him they can give the finger to Putin and the War in a fairly safe manner.
Sources within Kremlin states that they had expected him to get the signatures, but nobody had expected the endless lines of people signing up for him in the entirety of Russia.
-This part is brought to you by *****.
Having their ship hit by a missile and oodles of sea drones, and all of it published on video, had a very weird impact on Russia.
But, first we need to clear something up.
It was hit by a missile and that was recorded on telemetry sea drones.
Then the ship was hit by several of said drones.
This was a small ship, either the missile, or a single sea drone, would be sufficient to sink it.
It was a message to Russia, we can now waste resources.
Russia then issued a stream of propaganda posts that was hilarious, stating that Ukraine had done them a favour and that they would now save money, and that surface warships are now obsolete.
By accident Russia almost hit the nail here.
Surface warships in closed waters, or near coastal waters, are indeed yesterdays news unless insanely capable in regards of safeguarding all approaches to them.
Either we will need new and improved ships in regards of their protection, or we need to scrap the idea entirely.
After all there are other better classes of weapons systems to fulfil their role.
Open water ships is though an entirely different thing altogether.
I found it hilarious.
Kherson and other frontlines
Changes have been made in logistics stream, and new offensive concepts have been developed and are already being deployed there.
The limited changes already in place have given immediate effect, and expect more successes to follow shortly on the back of the news that now are being "leaked" into the open.
Tarnovskyy returned today, said "fook me" over what Tank Girl had done, and learned a couple of new tricks.
Since Olexandr has a very good sub-commander he stated that he can take care of stuff while he is off on vacation.
I know him and agree that there is no need to drag in a temp in his case, it is the same dude that did the Urozhaine liberation part.
Normally he would be nicked and given a command, but with Olexandr running such a long and hotly contested past he get to retain his good sub.
The rest of the frontline has no changes, except near a village named Terny in Luhansk where the Russian took two fields.
It is a hotly contested area, and with Ukraine pushed against a river and some lakes there is no manoeuvre space.
And with Zyrskyi fully committed he has asked Tank Girl for a fresh perspective and reinforcements to create said manoeuvre space.
She looked, found the weak spot to hammer at, and sent the appropriate troops on their merry way there.
Otherwise things are satisfyingly going boom in the Russian rear.
So much so that Russia has issued the statistics of their declining export sales of gazoline, diesel and airplane fuel.
In January the decline was a whopping 29 percent according to their own statistics.
Note here that most of the destruction happened at the mid point of January.
Ouch.
Note that crude oil sales is nowadays a state secret in Russia, but we can safely assume that the impact is similar in that regard.
And here is the thing, every single rouble was accounted for to pay for the war, this is impacting war expenditures hard."
So, hilariously, Boris Nadezhdin has been ejected from the Russian election on the grounds of mis-spelling something.
So Putin/Putinistas really were worried.
Meanwhile more and more protesting wives are being rounded up.
So Putin/Putinistas really were worried.
Meanwhile more and more protesting wives are being rounded up.
I watched an interesting conversation with an economist who has noted how much things have changed since the ukraine war started.
His main point seems to be that the new, CHEAP tech like drones from Iran etc is changing everything globally. High tech military hardware used to be only for rich countries but now this stuff can be easily transported to anybody and anywhere.
He used the point that the Houthis armed with just a few drones from Iran have essentially created a naval blockade that (obviously) usually required a navy.
I think we have seen in Ukraine just how powerful drones have been with billions of pounds worth of russian tanks, bunkers, refineries, power stations seemingly defenseless against them.
Who needs warplanes at the cost of billions along with the years of training when drones can be super accurate and piloted remotely - often more than one drone per pilot.
What happens when some lunatic dictator gets enough of these things stock piled? What about the usual worry about chemical/biological warheads? How would we defend ourselves against them when they are clearly small enough to evade the sophisticated detection and protection that the Russians thought they had?
Iran seem to be busy causing a lot of trouble - they supposedly funded and encouraged the Hamas atrocity; they arm the Houthis and support them. Is this all linked to Russia and Ukraine, as some have suggested?
His main point seems to be that the new, CHEAP tech like drones from Iran etc is changing everything globally. High tech military hardware used to be only for rich countries but now this stuff can be easily transported to anybody and anywhere.
He used the point that the Houthis armed with just a few drones from Iran have essentially created a naval blockade that (obviously) usually required a navy.
I think we have seen in Ukraine just how powerful drones have been with billions of pounds worth of russian tanks, bunkers, refineries, power stations seemingly defenseless against them.
Who needs warplanes at the cost of billions along with the years of training when drones can be super accurate and piloted remotely - often more than one drone per pilot.
What happens when some lunatic dictator gets enough of these things stock piled? What about the usual worry about chemical/biological warheads? How would we defend ourselves against them when they are clearly small enough to evade the sophisticated detection and protection that the Russians thought they had?
Iran seem to be busy causing a lot of trouble - they supposedly funded and encouraged the Hamas atrocity; they arm the Houthis and support them. Is this all linked to Russia and Ukraine, as some have suggested?
Lefty
Well-known member
The arms race will develop along software that can quickly identify and track these drones linked to bofurs and oerlikon type AA guns, rendering the cheap drones useless, in my opinion. At the moment they can't take much damage, a single canon or machine gun bullet will bring them down, it is the spotting and hitting them that is the tricky part. Let's hope they can leave the birds alone.
Meanwhile, we've blown the defence budget on 2 aircraft carriers that can't leave port without breaking down
Send them in swarms
The is exactly the issue. They are so relatively cheap and expendable that it would make sense to send them to attack by the thousand.
From what I have gathered, some of the drones used in Ukraine are not far away from the stuff we can all buy.
It will be fought by 13-year-olds trained on Playstations. WFH, of course!
go-nads!
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Or cyborgs that have come from the future, but it's hard to tell which are the good ones cos they look the same as the bad ones. Or worse it's bad ones that can change how they look and turn their arms into massive pointy spikes and run fast as.
Millbrook
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It's said that China has already developed some pretty sophisticated robotic weaponary.
There's AI weaponry being used in the Ukraine war now. Some truly scary **** that you won't read about anywhere.
But small drones have changed the way war will be conducted ... until the new thing arrives. Lasers and that.
But small drones have changed the way war will be conducted ... until the new thing arrives. Lasers and that.
On a lighter note
Andy_W
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Yup, lasers will be the death of small drones which aren't big enough or stealth enough to defend themselves, at least lasers used in detection anyway.
All it will take is a laser scan of the localised sky, similar to a point cloud or how surface monitoring works in engineering nowadays. Kit <20k can scan an area 100m x 100m, from 100m distance, in ~30cm resolution to detect movements of 1mm, and scan the whole area in a second. So that could protect a box of sky of the same size, and pick up anything 30cm in size, in a second. Obviously you don't need to pick things up every second (which are slow, like drones), so you can use 10 seconds to increase the resolution or widen the area covered. 100m x 100m of sky, from 100m away will cover a significant amount of area which things would be coming from. They can do like 30,000 points a second, the last time I looked.
You could do 1km x 1km of sky, from 1km away with 30cm resolution, every 30 seconds. Good enough to pick up a drone large enough to carry armament. Mobile Lidar can already do this for surveys etc, but I expect masses of systems are being adapted for this for picking up anything in the sky (as opposed to no returns, which a laser fired into the sky would usually get).
Probably doesn't need a laser to shoot them down, and the tech for this is probably not close, but something like a much smaller scale phalanx, or basically an accurate auto shotgun could do the job. Doesn't need 50 cal rounds when a BB would take it down or damage it enough.
Laser would be better than Radar too, due to the better resolution, and much less range needed. You don't need a massive expensive radar, if you have portable laser detection, which is extremely cheap for what it does, and it's also tiny (shoe box size). Picking up a jet from 100 miles away is great, and necessary when they can air launch cruise missiles, but a small drone carrying a small amount of explosive needs far less protection and range.
Drones with mirrors!