The Libertines
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parnabyscrosses
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Yes big fan. You’re ‘now’ picture is quite old though, they all have grey hair now!
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That certainly does not make me feel any better or younger!
parmoboy
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Acquired taste for sure and I was fairly buzzed for the early part of this millennium as those were my student days. Took my future missus to a secret Libertines gig somewhere in Boro on our first date and the die was cast. They captured the essence of those student days so they will always be special to me.
parmoboy
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I wasn't massively impressed by their last album and wish they'd never done it to be honest. Feel they've ruined their legacy now. The 2nd album would have been the perfect album to finish on.
Saying that, they were great when I saw them live in 2017 so they obviously still have something to offer.
Saying that, they were great when I saw them live in 2017 so they obviously still have something to offer.
parnabyscrosses
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How on earth have they ruined their legacy? The album might not add anything to their legacy but as for ruining it, ridiculous!
BlindBoyGrunt
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Seen both Carl Barat and Pete Doherty on their own and both were worth seeing.
parmoboy
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Maybe saying they've ruined their legacy is a bit strong but if they hadn't have released another album there would still be fans now yearning for another album and thinking 'what could have been'. They got the third album and it was actually a bit of a letdown. Songs like Can't stand me now just feel a bit hollow now that they're back together, although I accept that it was a representaiton of the time.
It's like with the Sex Pistols. Part of what makes them special for me is the fact thay they only released that one album. They were very much a band of the moment, and I'd always felt that with the Libs too. They'll always be regarded as a great band because of NMTB, but if they'd released more albums and they were mediocre then that might have changed things.
parmoboy
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Saw Pete perform an acoustic set in Darlington and he put on a good show. Met him after the gig and he seemed like a nice guy. More than happy to chat and pose for a photo.
The_Lizards_Jumpers
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The Pistols didn't exactly go out with a bang either, with things like Vicious releasing his version of My Way which was dreadful, or the Pistols doing "No one is innocent" with Ronnie Biggs which again was dreadful. Even follow on bands like PiL and Big Audio Dynamite weren't a patch on the Pistols pure explosiveness (even though musically they were far superior).
I'm probably too old (42) to have them as one of my teenage bands, and so feel as though I can look at them more objectively. They wrote some amazing songs (Time for Heroes as an number one example) and probably defined a generation (along with other bands like The Arctic Monkeys and The Strokes) in the same way as The Smiths or Oasis did for my generation. However Doherty's drug problems and their subsequent lukewarm reformations have probably soured their legacy somewhat.
I'm probably too old (42) to have them as one of my teenage bands, and so feel as though I can look at them more objectively. They wrote some amazing songs (Time for Heroes as an number one example) and probably defined a generation (along with other bands like The Arctic Monkeys and The Strokes) in the same way as The Smiths or Oasis did for my generation. However Doherty's drug problems and their subsequent lukewarm reformations have probably soured their legacy somewhat.
anth25
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Was that at the Arena? Advertised as Pete solo show but then full band turned up. Quality night and only a month or so after they'd played 3 sold out show at Kentish Town Forum. Massive deal at the time getting them to come up here for a tiny show. One of my favourite gigs of all time
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It was pal, upstairs if I remember correctly. Good memory.
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Arctic Monkeys were the definition of the next generation I reckon
Emmersons_BrazillianDong
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Like Lizard says they captured a generation with the strokes ahead of them and the Arctic monkeys behind them but I think more than that, their accessible nature made them totally different.
The original guerilla gigs in houses etc, going out for drinks with fans after gigs - before things got too heavy with the drugs
I loved them and saw all of the individual members play in other projects. My favourite was driving to Newcastle at an hours notice because Dirty Pretty Things had managed to borrow some equipment from another band who were flying out of the airport.
Carl was p1ssed and was running late so when they finally arrived, they played 4 songs and then the other band had to literally leave for a flight so the 100 or so crowd sang along to the rest with Carl acapella.
The songs were the soundtrack to my life from 19-25ish so I'm always going to be biased
The original guerilla gigs in houses etc, going out for drinks with fans after gigs - before things got too heavy with the drugs
I loved them and saw all of the individual members play in other projects. My favourite was driving to Newcastle at an hours notice because Dirty Pretty Things had managed to borrow some equipment from another band who were flying out of the airport.
Carl was p1ssed and was running late so when they finally arrived, they played 4 songs and then the other band had to literally leave for a flight so the 100 or so crowd sang along to the rest with Carl acapella.
The songs were the soundtrack to my life from 19-25ish so I'm always going to be biased
anth25
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Great night. Got an old VHS of it somewhere!! They played a surprise gig at Northumbria Uni the next night as well. Basically piggy backed on a band who were already booked to play. Came on after them at around half 10. Meant that this folk band who may have been expecting to play to 50 or so students ended up having to play to a room full of ***ed up impatient Libertines fans. The very definition of a "tough crowd" Loved the chaos of their early shows. Think that is what is missing from all the shows since they reformed and is why I've chosen not to go and see any of the gigs. Hard to recreate that atmosphere of the early gigs.
HarryVegas
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Interesting point you make about legacies ruined etc. I was entranced for years by the sheer power of the Pistols - Jonesy's slabs of guitar and Rotten's threat were a rare combination. In theory, I should be able to get past Lydon's latterday d*ckishness but I just can't. Same goes for Morrissey who has spent so long p*ssing all over the Smiths' work, I can't listen to them either nowadays.
SmallTown
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I love the idea of a guerilla gig. Sad that was such a short lived phenomenon. There was some great recordings made of the libertines which were clearly recorded in people's flats. I have a great video of the others doing a gig on a tube train