The seemingly daily flow of government corruption

SmallTown said:
Not sure this is correct. The Mail have turned but mail readers probably won't care. I would say Telegraph readers would be concerned and the Telegraph is very much trying to make it a none issue. It was front page news yesterday but in a "Something happened, but lets move on" low key way.
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It's still being reported which is more than had happened in the past. Much the same happened with Blair, the media turned on the tories then too.
 
SmallTown said:
Not sure this is correct. The Mail have turned but mail readers probably won't care. I would say Telegraph readers would be concerned and the Telegraph is very much trying to make it a none issue. It was front page news yesterday but in a "Something happened, but lets move on" low key way.
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Tory voters read those newspapers for their confirmation bias not their independence. It has always been thus.
 
SmallTown said:
I fear you may be right. I would hope not though. I'm probably angrier then most because of my political leaning. At least you labour supporters can turn round and see "well what did you expect" etc. But when you go in for an (albiet more liberal) from of conservatism to see the Tory party so corrupt and so far to the right its a betrayal and an affront.

I get a load of grief, rightfully I admit, for voting Tory at the last election but I genuinely did vote on local issue and my faith in the tory candidate over the labour one, who famously couldn't remember her parties manifesto at the last election and didn't vote against corruption on Wednesday. I feel this faith at least was justified because even she tweeted not long ago that she had quit the Tory party, making me think she might have had principles.

It's going to be an important battle ground winning over middle England who should, like me, feel disposed and angry at the way the party is going. That is important, as is labour winning back it's red wall heartlands. I believe both of theses things are achievable. However it's up to us, who see the corruption, to make sure it doesn't get lost because come the next election, the majority of the red wall and middle England simply won't care. It's up to us to make them care. Make them realise how bad it has got.
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I've called you out on a few things, hopefully in a reasoned manner, so feel it only right to flag up that this is an excellent post
 
futureboy said:
No matter how bad it gets and how starkly it's portrayed even by the likes of the Mail (as above), I suspect that many Tory voters, especially those who are politically ignorant, will simply dismiss this as "Doh, silly Boris" rather than the insidious and corrupt crisis it really is.
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The usual apologists have been very quiet on this, and Brexit, recently
 
Billy69_uk said:
The average Tory voter couldn't care less about any of this corruption,
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But yet the outrage from them if anyone gets a fiver more than they should in benefits they look like their heads are about to explode.

Chris_Boro said:
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I could be wrong but I also read one of the directors of uniserve is a tory party donor who donated £700k to the party at the last election.
 
Ironops said:
The usual apologists have been very quiet on this, and Brexit, recently
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I think it's beyond all reasonable doubt how bad things are. Like the fact Gove hasn't been in the media lately, the best tactic for those people is to just stay quiet until at all dies down again. That's the concern though. It WILL all die down. If we let it
 
SmallTown said:
I think it's beyond all reasonable doubt how bad things are. Like the fact Gove hasn't been in the media lately, the best tactic for those people is to just stay quiet until at all dies down again. That's the concern though. It WILL all die down. If we let it
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A dead cat will come along in the next 48 hours to shift attention away - sure as hell
 
Ffs… is there not a politics message board somewhere on the internet ???

There are more threads on here about it than football, getting beyond a joke now
 
Bernies_quiff said:
Ffs… is there not a politics message board somewhere on the internet ???

There are more threads on here about it than football, getting beyond a joke now
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It's important. The erosion of our democracy and, by extension, the loss of power we have as citizens is extremely important. Hence why it 8s discusses.
May I ask: why do you not like discussing this?
 
Bernies_quiff said:
Ffs… is there not a politics message board somewhere on the internet ???

There are more threads on here about it than football, getting beyond a joke now
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I know what you mean, the title of this thread does sound like it's going to be about football doesn't it?......

Just don't read the threads that don't interest you, everyone's a winner.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
I know what you mean, the title of this thread does sound like it's going to be about football doesn't it?......

Just don't read the threads that don't interest you, everyone's a winner.
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I haven’t read it, my point is surely there’s somewhere far better than a message board that’s meant to be about football to discuss politics etc… You seem to have to scroll further and further down the board these days to find a football related thread

This place used to be good for a laugh, it now seems to be populated with geriatric snobs who get offended by the slightest little comment.

On the thread about inappropriate ads somebody wants a poster banned because he made a joke 🙄🤷‍♂️
 
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