These people sat in parks today

I have and have come to the conclusion that you can't reason with stupidity. Of course these fools know better don't they until they are begging for oxygen on a side ward somewhere đź‘€
"I have and have come to the conclusion that you can't reason with stupidity" well your posts confirm one thing, you certainly can't debate with stupidity.
 
You're the idiots. At NO POINT did we say we want to go for a drive. It was a simple question, what is the difference driving to a secluded spot than walking outside your house if it's busy? Stop making stuff up.
Driving somewhere for a walk or exercise is just a **** poor excuse to get around the government's instructions, why try and deny that? Come on don't be so naive.
 
You'd better familiarise yourself with those guidelines because government advice this week was that driving a short distance to be away from others for exercise is ok.
Until Monday.... Because people have took the Mickey with the guidelines instead of using common sense.
 
In your view. But you can't tell me why it is more unsafe can you. I'm not doing this before you start complaining, I'm epileptic and can't drive.
I can but people have already made their minds up about the guidelines and instructions so what's the point?
Just don't be surprised if the government's instructions change and wonder why they did.
 
Healthier people with adequate vitamin D levels are, apparently, less likely to need hospital care ... so relieving the burden on hospitals. Yes, some will get very sick and die, but according to our own NHS advisors it improves your likelihood of having mild symptoms. At the end of the day, we don't know yet. Currently, the two countries with the most stringent lockdowns are still seeing exponential growth curves. Eventually, those curves will naturally flatten out anyway because more people will have resistance (not immunity). In the end, we won't know until much later in the year, maybe even next year. In the meanwhile we all have accept that we are in the dark, so taking judgmental positions isn't helpful.
We have significant growth in Spain. However it is no longer exponential. Here is a Google translation of an analysis of today's figures in Spain...

"5 April 2020

Notable falls in cases and daily deaths. Today it is time to apply caution with the reading of the results due to the possible weekend effect, which leads to the delay in accounting and reporting of information. That could mainly affect data from new cases, whose official data could be somewhat below the real ones (and the correction is seen in the data communication on Tuesday).

Taking these caveats into account, let's go to the data.

6,023 new cases. It is the minimum since March 23. 7,026 cases yesterday. 130,759 cases in total. Strong push down of the multiplication rate, to 1.28.

674 died yesterday compared to 809 yesterday. The data may be influenced by the weekend effect, but hopefully little. We were already saying that the drop in new daily cases was going to carry over into a drop in daily deaths in the following 5-10 days. There are 12,418 deaths in total. Also sharp drop in the multiplication rate, which is already below 1.4, to 1.37

As we announced yesterday, we stopped giving information about the valuable evolution data in hospitalization and in the ICU, because the Autonomous Communities are following different accounting criteria, and it no longer allows comparing with previous data in the series, which is essential to calculate well and with sense the multiplication rates."

The target is to get the multiplication rate down to 1. The hard lock down is not there yet. However progress is being made.

A couple of weeks ago I agreed with you that we cannot make a clear statement on the short term success of a hard lock down. Now we can. As I have said before. This is only a first step. To try to keep demand below available facilities. In Spain we need to continue with our hard lock down. While planning for what comes next.
 
cheers, i can isolate better by taking my dogs to the beach in my car rather than on a 20 minute walk there, the beach should also be less populated than the green spaces i normally take them too which have become somewhat popular
 
When you go out in your car to 'exercise' you risk further interaction if you're in an accident or break down... this isolating thing is not difficult, it's literally staying at home and away from other people for a few weeks... why do so many people think they are entitled...
Imagine the freedom we will have if we follow the simple instructions...
Imagine what that freedom will be like if your loved ones are dead because you didnt follow them...
Most A&E accidents happen in the home.
 
You'd better familiarise yourself with those guidelines because government advice this week was that driving a short distance to be away from others for exercise is ok.
But then the police contradict this. Errington woods is a short drive from Redcar and police put flyers on saying they shouldn’t drive to these places

this is where things are all muddled etc
 
Today's figures are encouraging for sure.
This has been just about a continuous downward trend since lock down was imposed between around 12-16 March. Some regions started early hence the range of dates for the start of lock down. Central government started the country wide lock down on 16 March. The lock down was then tightened from Monday 27 March.

The figures are 4 day moving averages to smooth out the kinks. The growth rate (multiplying factor) was up at around 4 to start with. Which was, as you say, exponential growth.
 
He is saying that the government may have to tackle people that aren't being as responsible as he is. Not oo difficult to understand. Don't wilfully mis-represent his position. That is trolling.
That is not what I am doing - I am interpreting his words as they were written.The government should do more, so long as it doesn't impact on my daily exercise. Fluffy of course take your dog for a walk.

Trolling Borolad, really.
 
You're the idiots. At NO POINT did we say we want to go for a drive. It was a simple question, what is the difference driving to a secluded spot than walking outside your house if it's busy? Stop making stuff up.

"what is the difference driving to a secluded spot than walking outside your house if it's busy? "

On an individual basis, probably none.

But, the problem is the multiplier effect - when driving "somewhere" is seen to be "OK", the more people will do it - the "well if they're doing it, I'm going to do it" scenario that I've posted previously kicks in - and lockdown isn't seen as being important, Then more and more people are out, making social distancing more difficult and the likelihood of passing the virus on increases.
 
Most A&E accidents happen in the home.
Bear whilst you are right it is only part of the story. Per person hour spend in the home, many many more accidents happen on the road. In other words more accidents happen in the home because that is where we spend most of our time.
 
If exercise gets banned what happens to dog walking?
Spansihman - what happens over there?
 
Dog walking may be excluded from the ban but only one person allowed out with the dog, which may see a role reversal in many homes, I wouldn’t get a look in all of a sudden....,
 
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