Things to know about our likely new PM

FabioPorkpie said:
4 - he held a US Green card, allowing full US residency for approx 18 months after he became Chancellor.

‘Holders of these cards must pay US tax on their global income and vow to make the US their permanent home’

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Rishi Sunak Admits He Had A US Green Card Until 18 Months After Becoming Chancellor

Rishi Sunak has confirmed that he had a green card, which permitted him full residency in the United States, until late 2021. He was made chancello...
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It's worse than that. Green Card holders are permanent residents and are not allowed to leave the US for more than 6 months consecutively. Was he returning to the US to fulfil that obligation while in Parliament?
 
NYboro said:
It's worse than that. Green Card holders are permanent residents and are not allowed to leave the US for more than 6 months consecutively. Was he returning to the US to fulfil that obligation while in Parliament?
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He is a traitor, pure and simple but I wouldn't expect anything else from a supra-national multi-millionaire. They do not recognise nationhood when it could cost them money.
 
It's crazy, but I think he's the best choice any of us could hope to get. He will only look after the rich, like all of them, but at least he might be able to steady the ship somewhat, and hopefully, that could trickle down to us peasants. I suppose that's the best we could hope for. We wouldn't get that with BJ, Truss or whoever else, they would just look after the rich and drive the ship into numerous icebergs, repeatedly.

I hope he's less "far right" than their other potential options, but it is just hope I suppose. Not sure the old Tory racists would like it mind, so it could see the end of the Tory party, and they break into two, a really far-right side, and a more centre-right side.

He didn't do too bad as chancellor, for a Tory, considering who he was working for, and during Covid etc, and I think he would have been better behind a competent PM.

Either way he won't be in power come 2025.
 
Andy_W said:
It's crazy, but I think he's the best choice any of us could hope to get. He will only look after the rich, like all of them, but at least he might be able to steady the ship somewhat, and hopefully, that could trickle down to us peasants. I suppose that's the best we could hope for. We wouldn't get that with BJ, Truss or whoever else, they would just look after the rich and drive the ship into numerous icebergs, repeatedly.

I hope he's less "far right" than their other potential options, but it is just hope I suppose. Not sure the old Tory racists would like it mind, so it could see the end of the Tory party, and they break into two, a really far-right side, and a more centre-right side.

He didn't do too bad as chancellor, for a Tory, considering who he was working for, and during Covid etc, and I think he would have been better behind a competent PM.

Either way he won't be in power come 2025.
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He could be much worse than Johnson and Truss because he's not an idiot. He sees the country like a business and the economy is the P/L. all he cares about is the economy and we all know how these execs work where they will cut salaries of the workers, remove all of their rights and benefits all in the name of profit. It wouldn't be so bad if they saw the country as a co-operative but they don't. It's a way to maximise profit to the rich shareholders and the little people just get screwed.

The whole rhetoric around the "economy" does my head in. I don't care how we look compared to other countries when comparing economies. I want to see the people within the economy happier and better off.
 
festa5 said:
A lot of them are, it's called being a politician. They're supposed to be good at that ****.

Obviously given many have been selected on ideology over ability in recent years there are probably quite a few on the backbenches who can't string a coherent sentence together, but the majority of ministers are good at the small talk stuff.
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No I get that, but it was a genuine conversation.
 
I’m a massive Labour supporter, and always will be, but in Sunak’s defence I’m not sure how much he is worth is massively relevant. Every single senior Tory MP is an elitist worth a fortune so none of them understand the struggles of the working man. Whether he is worth £20m or £730m doesn’t really change that.
 
festa5 said:
Aye I've met a few over the years (no-one exciting). Some of my colleagues have been in meetings with Gove and Rees-Mogg *shudders* and apparently they come across as quite reasonable and personable face to face.
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Someone very close to me attends Govenment briefings and has under both lots.
Gove and Balls were the two hardest working Ministers who actually took time to look at the pre-briefing notes.
The majority of the rest of them are simply atrocious and won't even prep with a single A4 summary.
 
Is Rabid anti-immigration and consistently votes against pro-asylum issues.
Ironic given his background. That more than anything else tells as much as you need to know about him.
 
Nano said:
He could be much worse than Johnson and Truss because he's not an idiot. He sees the country like a business and the economy is the P/L. all he cares about is the economy and we all know how these execs work where they will cut salaries of the workers, remove all of their rights and benefits all in the name of profit. It wouldn't be so bad if they saw the country as a co-operative but they don't. It's a way to maximise profit to the rich shareholders and the little people just get screwed.

The whole rhetoric around the "economy" does my head in. I don't care how we look compared to other countries when comparing economies. I want to see the people within the economy happier and better off.
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Whilst I definitely agree with your last sentence, ironically Brexit is the reason for the second to last one.

Trade imbalances, GDP etc do matter when trying to make global deals and we must look like easy pickings to a semi-competent foreign trade minister at present.

We basically took an OK situation in a ecosystem we could control and replaced it with an awful situation in one in which can't.

Sunak is not an idiot, and I would wager even he is looking at ways to improve that trade relationship with the Bloc to try and undo some of the economic damage. Ironically, if he tries it, it will probably end his term as PM.
 
ThePrisoner said:
I thought he was a Brexiteer.
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He was (is?) but like quite a few in the party, that was always about Optics rather than any deep held ideological beliefs. It was a quick win to move a few steps up the political ladder.

Now he's been tasked with, and is accountable for, the economic performance of the nation I'd be astounded if (at least privately) he doesn't fully support closer economic ties to the EU
 
zzzzz said:
Someone very close to me attends Govenment briefings and has under both lots.
Gove and Balls were the two hardest working Ministers who actually took time to look at the pre-briefing notes.
The majority of the rest of them are simply atrocious and won't even prep with a single A4 summary.
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Doesn't surprise me about Brown.

I worked most closely with ministers under the coalition government. The lib Dems one were well liked and respected.

I don't work that closely with ministers now, but I do know several of them don't use computers, they insist on everything being printed out for them. It'll come as no surprise that the former "minister for efficiency" Jacob Rees-Mogg was one of them.
 
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