Time wasting

If the referees just applied the actual laws of the game then things would speed up a touch.

An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

- controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it
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Apparently the amount of time the ball is in play is getting less as seasons pass, not just here, but across all the big European leagues too.

Plus, the disparity between the minimum and maximum time it's in play is becoming bigger too - some PL games see less than 45 playing time, but others see up to 75.
 
Prime example yesterday with the Barcodes. Players subbed and went across the pitch rather than quickest way, once again plenty of complaints but ref let it go. Players and coaches need a chat before the game to tell them what's what and what will happen if they fanny about. It's not good watching and getting tedious.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
Apparently the amount of time the ball is in play is getting less as seasons pass, not just here, but across all the big European leagues too.

Plus, the disparity between the minimum and maximum time it's in play is becoming bigger too - some PL games see less than 45 playing time, but others see up to 75.
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I've been banging this drum for years. This and diving, all under the guise of gamesmanship or "shithousery" have been allowed to just get worse and worse. This is a super easy one to solve though. 2 30 minute halves, take the clock off the referee and enforce the rules we already have around keepers keeping hold of the ball. The usual methods of time wasting wouldn't be possible if the clock is dead. Teams would get creative and pass the ball around the back if they want to time waste but that is fine, the ball is in play, that's up to them.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
Prime example yesterday with the Barcodes. Players subbed and went across the pitch rather than quickest way, once again plenty of complaints but ref let it go. Players and coaches need a chat before the game to tell them what's what and what will happen if they fanny about. It's not good watching and getting tedious.
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This is particularly annoying as it's a relatively new law which has never actually been enforced! It's like some collective ignorance on the part of referees?

As for time wasting more generally, I don't have a problem with it. If teams take the moral high ground it only disadvantages yourselves. Actually, until it's fully cracked down on (if ever) I'd be genuinely looking for innovative approaches to waste even more time when winning.
 
redjohnnie said:
Clock should be stopped everytime the ball is out of play or dead.
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yes that would be great I reckon, would like to see the final seconds pan out and how that changes set plays at the end of the game when teams know they only have enough time on the clock for one last attacked.

always thought its daft how they simply let the current play usually run out of steam before blowing, bit hard done by when you loose when ref was ready to blow before they scored.

if it makes matches last a crazy amount of time then they could always adjust the time played so it gets closer to the original duration intention.

I think its telling that tv coverage never ever details how long the added on time should really be, no doubt they could monitor it very easily if they wanted to, this always made me think that they are under instruction not to show this information because the time added on is way out
 
I would like to reinstate the old rule of goal kicks taken being from the side the ball went out of play. and this new rule of goal kicks not having to leave the box before becoming live is just crackers.
Anybody remember the keeper's old four step rule after picking the ball up and bouncing the ball to move around. Hey ho.
 
Nano said:
I've been banging this drum for years. This and diving, all under the guise of gamesmanship or "shithousery" have been allowed to just get worse and worse. This is a super easy one to solve though. 2 30 minute halves, take the clock off the referee and enforce the rules we already have around keepers keeping hold of the ball. The usual methods of time wasting wouldn't be possible if the clock is dead. Teams would get creative and pass the ball around the back if they want to time waste but that is fine, the ball is in play, that's up to them.
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I'm probably in favour of that, but I'm not sure there's any appetite in the professional game, traditionalists worried about the brand.

As a spectacle is a no brainer, surely?
 
Norfolkred1 said:
Prime example yesterday with the Barcodes. Players subbed and went across the pitch rather than quickest way, once again plenty of complaints but ref let it go.
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I was watching that. Wilson it was, already on a yellow card. So, a question for the knowledge of the collective hive mind.

If the referee gives Wilson a second yellow for time wasting and sends him off, can the sub still join the field of play?
 
Muttley said:
I was watching that. Wilson it was, already on a yellow card. So, a question for the knowledge of the collective hive mind.

If the referee gives Wilson a second yellow for time wasting and sends him off, can the sub still join the field of play?
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The sub isn't on until he's off the pitch so if the booking happens before he leaves then no, the sub can't come on.
 
There's no reason to stop play for substitutions. Let play continue, and the sub can't come on until the player he's replacing has left the pitch.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
Is ruing the game. All teams are guilty but I'm getting sick of the blatant time wasting overall. It's about time the FA take a leaf out of the RUFC's book and let the Refs brief the players prior to the game.
1. Goal keepers have 20 seconds to take a goal kick
2. None of this faffing about leaving the field when subbed (WTF was that today, jogging on the spot shoite getting off the pitch)
3. Facing off with the ref should be a yellow, Captain and perpetrator only with the Ref.
4. Feigning injury during injury time should extend injury time.
5. Touching the ball when it has nothing to do with you should be a yellow, ie kicking it away, delaying a free kick.

The game is becoming unwatchable.
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Totally agree. A very different game to the one I was brought up to play/watch. Makes for a very frustrating spectator sport - regardless of the end result.
 
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