What makes a good keeper

Some people talk about Steffen as if he has some innate rare ability, he really doesn’t. It comes from practice and training in the main

Now, what makes a very good keeper……

1. Confidence
2. Height
3. Reach
4. Agility
5. Judgement & decision making
6. Eyesight
7. Speed of thought and action
8. Reactive and proactive skills
9. Focus & concentration
10. Anticipation
11. Handling of the ball
12 Strength of mind, body and character
13. Good communication
14. Be Instinctive
15 Team player (selflessness)
16. Commanding
17. Mad as a box of frogs
18. Training, practice, repetition, more repetition, then yet more repetition
19. Good distribution
20. Courageous and fearless
21. Good organiser.
22. Self awareness
23. Hand, eye co-ordination
24. Good time management skills
25. Positional sense
26. Good memory, never forgets
 
Glover_elbow said:
Dimi was underated he commanded his box extremely well
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strange because I think he's over-rated, was lucky enough to have the championship defensive cheat code of Ayala-Gibson-Grant-Clayton in front of him.

Maybe the reality is that he's rated about right?
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
According to the other board Karl Darlow had agreed to sign for next season, which is be happy with.
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Stats suggest that would be an excellent bit of business. Cheaper and more experienced. Hull played it out from the back and.....

a) Darlow played more short passes than any other championship keeper, significantly more than Steffen.
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b) Darlow makes more saves than Steffen
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Bruce said:
Saw this buried in the Isaiah Jones thread and thought it deserved its own thread



Thinking about this. Let's assume that at any given level, say Premier league level, most keepers can do most things with a certain level of ability. In a normal game, a keeper will have to deal with fairly few attempts at a goal. Most of those will be routine to deal with. Some of those will be impossible to save and a small number might be in that grey zone where the best shot-stopping keepers will prevent a goal more frequently than the average ones. Work it all out and on average it is unlikely that being a really good shot-stopper will make a difference in more games than not. Again, that's comparing a good shot-stopper vs an average one.

If you think back to Dimi; he hardly made a "save" all season.

The bread and butter of every keeper's match is organising the defence, claiming crosses and through-balls and starting an attack or period of possession. Every match, a keeper will be called on to do this multiple times. A team with a keeper who is good at this vs one who is average at it will benefit from that advantage multiple times each match.

A good shot-stopper who is playing behind a poor defence (or is bad at organising their defence) will make showy saves every match and look like the bee's knees. An average shot-stopper playing behind a well-drilled defence will hardly be noticed.

Steffen is an outlier because not only is he good with his feet, he is comfortable playing outside the box as a pseudo-outfield player. With Steffen we almost have 11 outfield players vs 10 and that is a huge advantage.

It may be pragmatic, but prioritising organisation skills and ball-playing ability over shot-stopping is probably the way to get the maximum benefit from a keeper.
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There have been a few cricket analogies flying about here and I think the OP very much describes the same quandary that cricket selectors' over have faced over wicket keepers. Do you pick your best keeper (probably Foakes) or do you go with an extra batsman who can wear the gloves? Which is the most important skillset? A few extra runs or the ability to pull off a game changing catch?
 
Encouraging piece about Sol Brynn on Teesside Live.

One quote from their Swindon insider
“In recent years Swindon have been a passing team - sometimes to the fans’ frustrations - and the goalkeeper has been the 11th outfield player, so they need him to be good with his feet. Sol’s passing has been really good. Many Swindon fans aren’t keen on the way Swindon play, in terms of playing out from the goalkeeper. But he didn’t ever let it affect him.
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mostly, his game is solid all-round. He’s a good shot-stopper - he’s made some unbelievable saves - his positioning is top draw and he’s really good with his feet.
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If this is accurate it is really hopeful. If Brynn is good enough to step up and play the way Carrick wants, it'll save us a lot of trouble. I had previously heard that he bounced back from a horrific debut so he definitely shows signs of mental toughness.
 
I think it’s easier to spot a poor keeper as this might controversial but I think once a keeper has a Rick in their game that flaw will follow them throughout their career.

It might be lessened but it will still be there.

Look at Guzan shocking keeper that constantly parried the ball back into danger and that flaw followed him his entire career wait for the rebound must have been pre match team talk as we all knew it was coming.
 
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