When’s a derby not a derby?

When you have an 11 paged thread debating whether it's a derby.

 
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Is it when there are multiple threads on a club message board saying it isn't a Derby and the fans constantly talk about how they aren't bothered about the other team.


221 replies! Clearly "not bothered" has a different meaning up there
 
Lot more people claiming it’s a derby than usual, probably find they’ll cling onto us soon enough because Newcastle have left them well behind.
 
When one of the sides has their pants pulled down by the other, time and time again. Instead the only remaining derby should be a side you rarely ever play, for damage limitation.

Should an unexpected win materialise once in a blue moon however, then the game is allowed brief derby status for a 48 hour period immediately afterwards, before reverting to the status quo.
 
Every time the game comes round Ready to Go has a multiple page thread debating it. They might not have the same illogical hatred for Boro as they do Newcastle, but there is no doubt it’s a rivalry. Those saying it just another game are idiots.
 
Every time the game comes round Ready to Go has a multiple page thread debating it. They might not have the same illogical hatred for Boro as they do Newcastle, but there is no doubt it’s a rivalry. Those saying it just another game are idiots.
It’s a myth though they don’t hate Newcastle as they need them to feel relevant they are two cheeks of the same ****.

They do though hate us hence their obsession to decree and belittle us at every turn.
 
When I was growing up there was never any talk of ‘is it or is it not a derby’, is this a new thing that younger Sunderland fans have came up with?

Just like Newcastle, it was always referred to as the Tyne-Tees derby, as was Wear-Tees.
 
When I was growing up there was never any talk of ‘is it or is it not a derby’, is this a new thing that younger Sunderland fans have came up with?

Just like Newcastle, it was always referred to as the Tyne-Tees derby, as was Wear-Tees.
I've often wondered if it started during that period when we were in the Championship, and Newcastle/Sunderland were both in the Premier League.

A lot of their younger fans probably won't have taken an interest in how we were doing and won't have experienced a Tees/Wear derby, so when we next played each other they probably won't have felt that excited about it. I think some of their older fans have basically latched onto it and say it isn't a derby because they think it annoys us.

I'd say a lot of their younger fans will now appreciate that there is a spice to it at least when we play each other. After we beat them at the Riverside last season a lot of their young fans were frothing at the mouth and punching and kicking the fence that separated their fans and ours in the east stand car park.
 
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