Who would you say is responsible? A quick poll.

[Corco65]

For having someone with no integrity, no humility and no respect for others and who lies and cheats throughout life as our prime minister and leader of the country?

 

[Ingleby_Flash]

All of the above.

 

[Ex Footy Legs]

For having someone with no integrity, no humility and no respect for others and who lies and cheats throughout life as our prime minister and leader of the country?

The fact that nails this is evil is that we have no constitutional set up in the uk and therefore Johnson and his cronies/advisers take full advantage as they have come to understand you can ride a coach and horses threw our parliamentary conventions since he prorogued parliament to save their party.

 

[coluka]

The question states remaining in power so the public have no authority to remove him other than at a general election. They are responsible for him being in power though.

There are only two legal ways to remove him as far as I can see, they are by personal resignation or by the MP’s removing him. Firstly, we know Johnson has no moral compass. His apology was well scripted, which tells me the wording was carefully prepared so as not to incriminate himself at a later date. I think he said heart felt apology, if it was heart felt he would not need a scripted note to refer to.

Secondly 54 MP’s need to write to the 1922 committee. They daren’t because of the upcoming local elections and the war in Ukraine. Well France are having a presidential election, is France unstable? No it isn’t. All that would happen is Johnson staying in power till the new charlatan, sorry I mean PM was in post if indeed he lost a no confidence vote.

Part of me feels Labour are much better him remaining as he is the gift that keeps on giving, it is just the thought of how much more damage he would cause over that of a new PM. What should happen is him going to the country again and let the people judge him.

 

[ForssAwakens]

I would blame something totally different. Apathy of the British public. We just don’t get up in arms about and take to the streets. We vent and then shrug our shoulders.

 

[Jedi boro]

Only the Tory mp’s via the 1922 committee can oust him by calling a leadership challenge.

Anything else will need to wait till the ballot box

 

[boroboy6872]

Well it`s the public defending him that says to the 1922 committee that they don`t need to replace him

Just my way of looking at it

If May brings a resounding defeat in the locals then the 1922 may need to act.....again at the hands of the public

 

[SmallTown]

A mix of the MPs and the public: The MPs are culpable because they are debasing themselves and any principles they had to desperately cling to power. This is mainly enabled by those that still support Johnson though. The simple fact is: if the general public made it vocal how abhorrent it is that a standing PM has broken the law, and that they won't stand for it, then the self serving, self aggrandising, careerist MPs would turn on him to further their own careers. Not an ideal reason for it but an ideal result.

The problem we have in this country is we have the usual "Blue Rosette" crowd who'll support them regardless. you see it on here, people like @uncle_rico and @FatCat trying to deflect from the mountain of corruption as desperately as they can. People like this are probably lost, they simply don't care about morals enough to turn on Johnson.

It's the apathetic that are the big problem. We have a huge class of people who don't "do" politics. Without realising that right now, politics is "doing" them. And doing them hard. How do we mobilise these people? How do we make them realise the apathy is allowing the corruption? That's the struggle of this country right now.

 

[Jedi boro]

Btw my answer is in relation to the word “remaining” in the OP.

If the question was who is responsible for bojo the being in power that would be a different matter

 

[coluka]

It's the apathetic that are the big problem. We have a huge class of people who don't "do" politics. Without realising that right now, politics is "doing" them. And doing them hard. How do we mobilise these people? How do we make them realise the apathy is allowing the corruption? That's the struggle of this country right now.

I agree this is a big problem. My view is that those parties in opposition do not do enough campaigning until the government call an election. Campaigning should be happening now not just on the local elections but nationally too and keep the momentum going on a national level. I appreciate campaigning costs money, but there is so much more local wannabe MP’s can do to keep the pressure on I would think their party manifesto’s are 90% written now, start selling it locally even if the election is 2 years away. Show they care now and push hard for a fairer more equitable society rather than trying to cram it all in the last few weeks before a general election.

 

[Uwefuchs]

I voted the Tory MPs who are the biggest culprits, however if you voted for Johnson in the general election you are also partly responsible for the mess this country is in.

We knew what Johnson was like and people still voted for him, shameful.

 

[changingman]

Some of the electorate voted him into power, they're culpable (just as they will be at any future election).

Right now, it's 100% the Conservative MPs though - they're the only ones who can actually remove him.

Johnson wants to think that he's in charge of his own destiny, and whilst that might not be 100% true it essentially is as he's electoral gold for a party who have historically struggled to cut through with the masses.

 

[Ex Footy Legs]

The question states remaining in power so the public have no authority to remove him other than at a general election. They are responsible for him being in power though.

There are only two legal ways to remove him as far as I can see, they are by personal resignation or by the MP’s removing him. Firstly, we know Johnson has no moral compass. His apology was well scripted, which tells me the wording was carefully prepared so as not to incriminate himself at a later date. I think he said heart felt apology, if it was heart felt he would not need a scripted note to refer to.

Secondly 54 MP’s need to write to the 1922 committee. They daren’t because of the upcoming local elections and the war in Ukraine. Well France are having a presidential election, is France unstable? No it isn’t. All that would happen is Johnson staying in power till the new charlatan, sorry I mean PM was in post if indeed he lost a no confidence vote.

Part of me feels Labour are much better him remaining as he is the gift that keeps on giving, it is just the thought of how much more damage he would cause over that of a new PM. What should happen is him going to the country again and let the people judge him.

What should happen is him going to the country again and let the people judge him.


This won’t happen in a million years and precisely why we are now in a dictatorship with the tories

 

[SuperStu]

I don't think it matters much if the 1922 committee or his fellow MPs replace him. The whole partys the same all the way down. Anyone they replace him with would have done the same things and they'd do the same in future. Their ideology is to look after the ruling class at the expense of the working class. That's what they do financially with tax, in times of war with who they'd send off to fight, and it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that this is how they'd treat the pandemic also. Restrictions on the working class so tory schmoozers can carry on unabashed.

The only real long term solution is for people to wise up and not vote them in. So I say tory voters to blame.

 

[Caesium137]

Russia?

 

[Steer]

Anyone who voted for this shower in the last election are to blame. His history of gaffs, incompetence and dishonesty was not a national secret at the time.

 

[SmallTown]

Russia?

Good point

 

[uncle_rico]

A mix of the MPs and the public: The MPs are culpable because they are debasing themselves and any principles they had to desperately cling to power. This is mainly enabled by those that still support Johnson though. The simple fact is: if the general public made it vocal how abhorrent it is that a standing PM has broken the law, and that they won't stand for it, then the self serving, self aggrandising, careerist MPs would turn on him to further their own careers. Not an ideal reason for it but an ideal result.

The problem we have in this country is we have the usual "Blue Rosette" crowd who'll support them regardless. you see it on here, people like @uncle_rico and @FatCat trying to deflect from the mountain of corruption as desperately as they can. People like this are probably lost, they simply don't care about morals enough to turn on Johnson.

It's the apathetic that are the big problem. We have a huge class of people who don't "do" politics. Without realising that right now, politics is "doing" them. And doing them hard. How do we mobilise these people? How do we make them realise the apathy is allowing the corruption? That's the struggle of this country right now.

Blue rosette crowd? Firstly I am not a Tory, and never have been. Secondly I have never defended Johnson, Sunak or any other MP that has broken the law.

Unfortunately in yours, any many others posters eyes, if you don’t support Labour and give their law breaking MP’s a free ride, then you must be a Tory.

I merely point out the hypocrisy in society and especially on this board, and will continue to do so.

 

[SmallTown]

Blue rosette crowd? Firstly I am not a Tory, and never have been. Secondly I have never defended Johnson, Sunak or any other MP that has broken the law.

Unfortunately in yours, any many others posters eyes, if you don’t support Labour and give their law breaking MP’s a free ride, then you must be a Tory.

I merely point out the hypocrisy in society and especially on this board, and will continue to do so.

You don't merely point out hypocrisy. In this case you've tried to deflect from the fact that the PM broke the law. Scary that you've tried to justify that