Will Isaiah reach his potential at boro?

Bit unfair to say Sexpom is disrespecting Jones’s off field issues. I’m sure we all feel for the problems he faced, and we all accept it was negative to his football, but that doesn’t mean that 8 week period where he got a bunch of assists is the norm for Jones. Prior to that and post that he was poor.

Like Sexpom I’d love to be wrong, but for me, I haven’t seen him consistently perform at a level that is good enough for our ambition. He’ll have his moments, but not enough for me.
I think our thoughts are aligned on this one Mart, I’d love nothing more than for him to take this season by the scruff of the neck!

His off field issues are hopefully in his rear view and he can concentrate on his football.

Whether he makes it at boro or not he will have a great career just like Lewis wing has.
 
I also agree that it's quite poor form to continously bump a thread with a title slating a player when that player has recently opened up about severe mental health problems during last season.

Players do read forums.

Obviously doesn't mean his performances can't be critiqued, but I don't think it really needs a dedicated 7 month long thread about just how low you think he's fallen and just how poor you think his technique is.

You keep saying you want him to do well, but you are obsessed with letting people know that you don't think he is.

I think this is around the 5th time you've bumped this thread, when it's long since dropped off the first few pages of the forum and each time it's just to continue slagging him off.
 
I also agree that it's quite poor form to continously bump a thread with a title slating a player when that player has recently opened up about severe mental health problems during last season.

Players do read forums.

Obviously doesn't mean his performances can't be critiqued, but I don't think it really needs a dedicated 7 month long thread about just how low you think he's fallen and just how poor you think his technique is.

You keep saying you want him to do well, but you are obsessed with letting people know that you don't think he is.

I think this is around the 5th time you've bumped this thread, when it's long since dropped off the first few pages of the forum and each time it's just to continue slagging him off.
It’s a designated thread is it not? There has been nothing below the belt at all said on this thread so I’m not really sure what your problem is.

Shall we make a rule of no players can be critiqued?
 
It’s a designated thread is it not? There has been nothing below the belt at all said on this thread so I’m not really sure what your problem is.

Shall we make a rule of no players can be critiqued?

Designated by yourself to slag him off, yeah.

There are now 17 pages in this thread, there are 4 pages worth of posts just from you bumping it and arguing against other posters who are defending him.

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Designated by yourself to slag him off, yeah.

There are now 17 pages in this thread, there are 4 pages worth of posts just from you bumping it and arguing against other posters who are defending him.

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Have I slagged him personally or critiqued his ability? Have you read what I’ve written I see nothing personal or ‘slagging’ just critiquing.
 
Bit unfair to say Sexpom is disrespecting Jones’s off field issues. I’m sure we all feel for the problems he faced, and we all accept it was negative to his football, but that doesn’t mean that 8 week period where he got a bunch of assists is the norm for Jones. Prior to that and post that he was poor.

Like Sexpom I’d love to be wrong, but for me, I haven’t seen him consistently perform at a level that is good enough for our ambition. He’ll have his moments, but not enough for me.
With friends like these who needs enemies?
 
The screenshot clearly shows you critiquing his ability

‘Basics are very poor’
‘One trick pony’
‘Been found out’
‘One dimensional’


Then we see your comment carrick doesn’t fancy him, you were well wide of the mark there kidda
Maybe, we are all wrong about things.

I’ve said I’d love to be wrong, I don’t think I will be but I’d love to be.

Nothing I’ve said that you’ve quoted can be seen as personal slagging.

I’m well within my rights as a supporter to critique and I critique because I expect a lot more like his days under wilder.
 
Nowhere near the same player as last year, did he peak too early? He still has a place but I don’t think he will reach those levels again. I’d be looking to replace him this window.
Did you see the interview he did. He stated he was in a bad place last year suffering with depression. A lot went on in his life last year but feels he’s ready to go again this season.
 
After Akpoms performance last season I think it’d be unwise for any boro fan to ever pessimistically predict the upper level of a players potential!

Also, with Jones having come from non league, even if he “only” ever becomes an option / squad player then I’d consider him a success. Especially when he can cover multiple positions and was signed for pennies.

Whatever happens with Jones, he’s already a success in my eyes!!
 
After Akpoms performance last season I think it’d be unwise for any boro fan to ever pessimistically predict the upper level of a players potential!

Also, with Jones having come from non league, even if he “only” ever becomes an option / squad player then I’d consider him a success. Especially when he can cover multiple positions and was signed for pennies.

Whatever happens with Jones, he’s already a success in my eyes!!
That’s a great way of putting it, the fact he’s come from non league he is classed as a success.
 
I hate this thread, I wish Rob would bin it.
I hope Isaiah moves on from what was hurting him last season and he shows his real potential.

I agree. Can we maybe bin this toxic and now pointless thread @fmttmadmin @borolad259 ?
Given a lot has come out since this thread was started, it serves no positive purpose and has frequently stank out the front page of the forum for months, without a competitive ball having been kicked. We need to support the young lad and he needs to be able to draw a line under last season and try to start afresh, with our support.
I’m sure fans will start critiquing all our players again once the season gets under way, which is fair enough, but this thread has had it‘s day and is quite unsavoury really.
I’ve got huge respect for Jones for opening up about his battles and I really hope he can get back to doing his thing on the wing.
 
Its sexpom who wants binning he's obsessed with himself and racism
What a strange thing to say, do you know me?

I agree. Can we maybe bin this toxic and now pointless thread @fmttmadmin @borolad259 ?
Given a lot has come out since this thread was started, it serves no positive purpose and has frequently stank out the front page of the forum for months, without a competitive ball having been kicked. We need to support the young lad and he needs to be able to draw a line under last season and try to start afresh, with our support.
I’m sure fans will start critiquing all our players again once the season gets under way, which is fair enough, but this thread has had it‘s day and is quite unsavoury really.
I’ve got huge respect for Jones for opening up about his battles and I really hope he can get back to doing his thing on the wing.
That sets the precedent that any thread critiquing a players performance can be removed does it not?

There has been no abuse aimed at jones in this thread.
 
What a strange thing to say, do you know me?


That sets the precedent that any thread critiquing a players performance can be removed does it not?

There has been no abuse aimed at jones in this thread.
A football messageboard that bans the critique of a players performances, form or indeed ability, is no longer a football messageboard.

As long as everyone acknowledges the mental health challenge he has faced and doesn’t personally attack him, then I’m not sure the problem.
 
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