Woody interview

Nero said:
The change in style is a good point. Woodgate for the job based on a 4-3-3 high pressing style which was never going to work with the players Boro have.

Is there any mention from him that he abandon the approach that got him the job in the first place? Probably not.
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He wasn't THAT far off around November that season.. then come January he just dropped off a cliff! Rudy Gestede had no place in that team.
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viv_andersons_nana said:
If he's right in what he says about the chairman and chief executive telling him he'd be in charge regardless of whether we were relegated to League One or not, and then sacking him, that's a concern IMO. Because it kind of echoes what happened to Downing, telling him he'd be getting a deal and then not following through with it. There's quite a few stories around about how the club release players, or move players and managers on, that show a bit of a distance between the boardroom and what goes on beneath that. It's a results business, of course, but a bit of courtesy and honesty goes quite a long way.
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I see it as attempting to instil some confidence into someone clearly struggling.

Unfortunately the performance in that game was so bad then confidence in his ability to return from division 3 in the event of relegation must have been significantly dented to such an extent a change was required. If we'd have gone down fighting (even in that game) with a defined style of play and determination then he may have been given that opportunity - however it was horrifically, ridiculously bad and the right decision was made.
 
For me he peaked when Fletcher put us 1-0 at home to Spurs in the cup. The ground was bouncing, Spence and Coulson had just burst onto the scene, we’d just signed Roberts, Howson was playing like Franco Baresi at the back, I felt there was a genuine buzz……….and then Moura equalised and it all seemed to go down hill from there.
 
If you're going down the road of complaining others didn't treat you with respect then you've got to treat others with respect yourself or you're a hypocrite. I seem to remember Woodgate being rather unpleasant to a female journalist - was he considering her mental health then?
 
West Brom away - up there with the great away performances and results 👍

Woodgate obviously opening up about mental health issues above and that’s to his credit.

As for his treatment by the Boro, that’s football at the top level isn’t it?

They get well rewarded to take both the good times and the bad times.
 
I don't have anything against Woody, but my opinion is maybe slightly soured by his time as a player and the shenanigans he got up to.

People mature of course, but it's still difficult to forget.
 
He seems very bitter about his experience at Boro, he said similar things in the Jamie Carragher podcast he was on.

End of the day he should never have been appointed in the first place, for a start his off the field antics as a player should have disqualified him. But regardless of that, results under him were disastrous. We were almost certainly going into League One under him, I don't see what grounds he has to complain. He had his chance and blew it.

As for the thick comments, I don't think he comes across and eloquent or articulate but then many in football don't as many of the players are from a working class background. I base his apparent lack of intelligence on the stupid decisions he made in the dugout and the silly things that came out of his mouth like the talk of attacking, exciting, high pressure football when he clearly didn't have the squad to achieve it and claiming the league table was lying.
 
I do think it’s quite arrogant that he thinks he shouldn’t of been sacked. I mean he was taking us down. Surely he can see it wasn’t going well
 
Diego said:
I do think it’s quite arrogant that he thinks he shouldn’t of been sacked. I mean he was taking us down. Surely he can see it wasn’t going well
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Surely is he thought he was right to be sacked then he would have resigned. No manager who’s sacked would think they deserved it. Professional sports people back themselves
 
GazC_MFC said:
Surely is he thought he was right to be sacked then he would have resigned. No manager who’s sacked would think they deserved it. Professional sports people back themselves
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I know but just comes across a bit deluded. Lacks self awareness for me. I think deep down he knows it was coming but won’t admit it
 
A gamble from Gibson to give him the job in the first place but I have no problem with that. Karanka was a gamble too, but that one paid off by and large. I actually applaud Gibson for wanting to have a local lad as manager.

I bumped into the boro team in a Darlington pub during the International break and was talking to George Friend. He said that Woodgates football and tactical knowledge was incredible (lets not forget some of the managers Woodgate worked under and teams he played in). He also said he didnt understand the anti Woodgate sentiment but alluded towards it being jealousy from people seeing 'one of their own' doing well and getting a top management job at an attractive club.

I personally wish Woody well and would like to see him being successful in the management game. Noticed him popping up as a pundit on TV and radio a lot more toward the end of last season though, so maybe he's going to go down that route.
 
I feel sorry for Woody, in a genuine way and not patronising. To be honest, Gibbo has to take the lions share of blame- by appointing him. Nowhere near ready for the role.

However it was sad to see the verbals he suffered by posters in here. This appeared to be non stop.

The green eyed monster does appear to rise quickly - and acidly towards local lads - a square I can’t circle.

I wish him well. His record at Bournemouth apart from the playoff final, suggests there is a manager there.
 
BigAl76 said:
A gamble from Gibson to give him the job in the first place but I have no problem with that. Karanka was a gamble too, but that one paid off by and large. I actually applaud Gibson for wanting to have a local lad as manager.

I bumped into the boro team in a Darlington pub during the International break and was talking to George Friend. He said that Woodgates football and tactical knowledge was incredible (lets not forget some of the managers Woodgate worked under and teams he played in). He also said he didnt understand the anti Woodgate sentiment but alluded towards it being jealousy from people seeing 'one of their own' doing well and getting a top management job at an attractive club.

I personally wish Woody well and would like to see him being successful in the management game. Noticed him popping up as a pundit on TV and radio a lot more toward the end of last season though, so maybe he's going to go down that route.
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Hi woody 😉
 
I was excited listening to his press inteview when he was given the managers job, talking about fast, exciting football, yes talk is cheap, but for a few months it was refreshing to read that he was hoping to stamp his brand throughout the club & after Stracham & Pulis it was nice to read the club were changing direction

The Luton game started off as he said it would, dont think anyone on here was complaining, probably the opposite, the home game v Brentford started off similar, 2 goals disallowed with us looking lively & on the front foot, second half we lost our way & ended up losing 1-0, we never really came back after that

He brought in some good players who have served us well

I think him brining in Keane was a poor recruitment, IMHO he needed someone with more experience, not another novice who will not go onto become a manager, but thats just my opinion

Good luck to Woody, I really hope he gets a job back in management sometime
 
Erimus74 said:
I think him brining in Keane was a poor recruitment, IMHO he needed someone with more experience, not another novice who will not go onto become a manager, but thats just my opinion

Good luck to Woody, I really hope he gets a job back in management sometime
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Bang on. If he had a more experienced coach around him, maybe someone to gave him counsel around being more pragmatic given some of the players obvious limitations I think we could have stayed up and then possibly grew from there.
 
I wonder if Gibson considered asking Warnock to work with Woodgate after the pandemic?
He must have seen something in Woodgate to appoint him in the first place and whatever that was must have still been there.
 
Rofesleg said:
I wonder if Gibson considered asking Warnock to work with Woodgate after the pandemic?
He must have seen something in Woodgate to appoint him in the first place and whatever that was must have still been there.
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Speculative I know, but it's possible he did ask this question when he first made the approach and Warnock said he was his own man and wanted to be the number one?
 
I think he has something, done a fair amount of coaching and scouted for Liverpool prior to taking on the managers job. I think he could be a good coach/no. 2, but appears he still has managerial aspirations. I hope he finds something as he still loves football and feels he has something to offer.
 
theredrooster said:
Speculative I know, but it's possible he did ask this question when he first made the approach and Warnock said he was his own man and wanted to be the number one?
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If that was a sticking point, he could have been appointed Director of Football, or given whatever title suited his ego.
 
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