Worrying less news coverage of Ukraine

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Boroboyyo

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First things first , I think what Johnson and the tories have done is shocking . I lost my father in law to covid when he contracted it in the hospital while undergoing chemotherapy. We didn’t see him his last Christmas due to restrictions , we also weren’t allowed to give him a proper funeral as we were in lockdown. Nobody thinks Johnson has to go more than me (and yes I’m right of centre politically).

What is worrying me though is how Ukraine is getting less and less coverage. I fear war in Europe is getting normalised. I also fear the Russians are hoping apathy kicks in the west and we gradually stop supplying aid. To me, that can’t be allowed to happen. Apathy tips this in russias favour.

To me, it’s imperative we continue as a nation to press our mps to keep helping the Ukrainians as much as we can. We also need to make sure our government keeps pressuring the US and EU to keep it a big priority.

Russia has turned imperialist again and now fascist under Putin. What history has shown us is that if these extremists get something they want more . If Putin is allowed a foothold in Ukraine then I do believe he will attempt to divide nations in nato to break it . Especially the baltics , if a disinformation campaign online is started in countries in nato and they leave I think it would be a matter of time before he tries the baltics. Just because a war is not on our doorstep , doesn’t mean it stays that way. We must supply Ukraine with the military and humanitarian aid it needs to stop this extremist in his tracks
 
You're definitely right, it's dropping further and further down the main news coverage despite the war still raging, I think it's most worrying with nations like Germany where they've been very weak and reluctant in their response to the whole situation.

If they've been like this when it's the biggest story in the world, their response is only going to get worse when people get bored of the war coverage.
 
Boroboyyo said:
First things first , I think what Johnson and the tories have done is shocking . I lost my father in law to covid when he contracted it in the hospital while undergoing chemotherapy. We didn’t see him his last Christmas due to restrictions , we also weren’t allowed to give him a proper funeral as we were in lockdown. Nobody thinks Johnson has to go more than me (and yes I’m right of centre politically).

What is worrying me though is how Ukraine is getting less and less coverage. I fear war in Europe is getting normalised. I also fear the Russians are hoping apathy kicks in the west and we gradually stop supplying aid. To me, that can’t be allowed to happen. Apathy tips this in russias favour.

To me, it’s imperative we continue as a nation to press our mps to keep helping the Ukrainians as much as we can. We also need to make sure our government keeps pressuring the US and EU to keep it a big priority.

Russia has turned imperialist again and now fascist under Putin. What history has shown us is that if these extremists get something they want more . If Putin is allowed a foothold in Ukraine then I do believe he will attempt to divide nations in nato to break it . Especially the baltics , if a disinformation campaign online is started in countries in nato and they leave I think it would be a matter of time before he tries the baltics. Just because a war is not on our doorstep , doesn’t mean it stays that way. We must supply Ukraine with the military and humanitarian aid it needs to stop this extremist in his tracks
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the decent newspapers are still covering it heavily, and the supply of missiles was covered everywhere yesterday. You're probably right about it becoming normalised, however there's too much political and strategic importance for it to get forgotten about at a politcal level.
 
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Sadly this was always going to happen it’s called war fatigue. It’s not just in this country it will the same across the world as the horrors of the Ukraine could easily fill the whole running order of the news say in day out but sadly there are other news stories issues to cover.

I think that the main network in this country have done all they can keeping reports in theatre to follow the story live from the inside snd there’s plenty of coverage on line and via Twitter from those reporting on the front line. Some excellent work has work has been done to bring these horrors home.

But as we saw in N Ireland during the troubles violence can easily become normalised.
 
Must admit I had a similar thought this morning. Admittedly there have been some pretty big issues closer to home over the last week but I think in a sense it is being normalised.

I think we'll continue to arm Ukraine but I do fear a reversal of sanctions may happen at some point, unfortunately I think Russia's stamina for long fight is greater than the EU's.
 
Whilst I totally agree with the OP, I think the significance of the fact that the political machinations that are currently cluttering up the front pages and the fall out from Brexit we are still dealing with was very heavily influenced by the same destabilizing Russian influence. Our governing party were heavily funded by Russian money, have suppressed a report into their influence, and even made some former KGB officers son a Lord.

That isn't a good look on a united front doing everything possible to support Ukraine in my eyes.............
 
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TeaCider said:
You're definitely right, it's dropping further and further down the main news coverage despite the war still raging, I think it's most worrying with nations like Germany where they've been very weak and reluctant in their response to the whole situation.

If they've been like this when it's the biggest story in the world, their response is only going to get worse when people get bored of the war coverage.
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Yup , I agree . I personally think France and Germany have appeased Putin too much . All this talk of an off ramp , but putin has given no indication at all he wants an off ramp . He essentially controls the propaganda anyway , he can spin the news anyway he likes to make out it’s a victory to the Russians and the majority will believe him .

Wonder if they would be content with ceding some of their territory with a fascist neighbour ? What happens if he wishes to go back in like 10 years time with his army built up again (or his successor does) and finish the job ?
 
I don't watch much news on TV, and the web news, social media sites, google, edge loading screen etc rarely have Ukraine featured you have to go looking for it and i don't think many people will do that.

It's just something which i think alot of people choose to ignore to feel better about themselves. A few people i have spoken to have said "Is that still going on?" so shows that it isn't mainstream news anymore but yeah, think that's down to the demand, the 'people' don't want to hear about it so the big news conglomerates push other stories.
 
Conversely, the deep unpopularity of Boris Johnson and his current issues will probably ensure that he'll keep pushing the narrative of defending Ukraine.

It's one of the few things our government is doing right and one of the few things people are able to give any credit for, so he'll be championing it and ensuring his face is plastered all over our efforts to help them.

So that's one positive of last night.
 
It's the same as anything. Things that become the norm aren't headline news. I think it is still high enough up the agenda that it gets coverage but there is only so much you can watch before thinking you've seen it before. There is slow progress so only major developments make it to the top of the news. It was the same with covid and any other major news story before that. There is always something more headline grabbing around the corner.
 
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Conversely, the deep unpopularity of Boris Johnson and his current issues will probably ensure that he'll keep pushing the narrative of defending Ukraine.

It's one of the few things our government is doing right and one of the few things people are able to give any credit for, so he'll be championing it and ensuring his face is plastered all over our efforts to help them.

So that's one positive of last night.
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He’s clearly using the the war in Ukraine as a shield to defect domestic issues which is quite despicable really.
 
Jedi boro said:
He’s clearly using the the war in Ukraine as a shield to defect domestic issues which is quite despicable really.
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I disagree jedi, I see it as he's doing it as its the right thing to do, not saying everything he's done before has, or hasn't been rignt, but he's doing as much, if not more, than any of the other leaders of their respective countries
 
Erimus74 said:
I disagree jedi, I see it as he's doing it as its the right thing to do, not saying everything he's done before has, or hasn't been rignt, but he's doing as much, if not more, than any of the other leaders of their respective countries
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I agree by the way with the govt policy in relation to Ukraine and I’ll fully supportive our actions.

I just wish it was someone else doing it.
 
Jedi boro said:
After a unified start, are cracks showing in the West's support for Ukraine?

www.nbcnews.com

Are cracks showing in the West's support for Ukraine?

French President Emmanuel Macron caused anger in Kyiv and beyond over the weekend when he suggested the West should not "humiliate" Russian President Vladimir Putin.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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Cracks will be exploited by Putin . Surely after 22 years of this **** you’d think western politicians would realise he’s playing them.
 
Erimus74 said:
I disagree jedi, I see it as he's doing it as its the right thing to do, not saying everything he's done before has, or hasn't been rignt, but he's doing as much, if not more, than any of the other leaders of their respective countries
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I think the problem is that his approach to other matters means it’s hard to take him at face value any more.
 
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