YouGov Poll - 33 Point lead!

SuperStu

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Truss is absolutely woeful and not even a choice among MPs but hoisted upon the Parliamentary Party by the Blue Rinse xenophobes.

It was the MPs that got her to the final 2! I wonder what the likes of Kemi Badenoch and Penny Mordaunt are thinking now...
 

Billy Horner

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I think there's a real chance the 1922 will look to alter both the "one year minimum" clause and try to remove selection rights from party members.

If you're a Tory MP surely its the only chance you've got? The experiment is laid bare and it has absolutely nothing to do with political parties.
Interesting constitutional question.

Since the start of the 20th century (I couldn’t be bothered going back any further), there has only been one Parliament where two different PMs have been replaced without a further General Election taking place. That was in 1940, at the moment of this country’s greatest peril, when a GE would have been both impractical and undesirable.

So if the 1922 Committee did decide to dump Truss, we would be in genuinely unprecedented territory.

Would the new King (who likes to do things differently) allow a party, which is so unpopular with the country, to indulge themselves in yet another leadership election during an economic crisis? Or would he insist on a fresh mandate through a General Election?
 

Sexpom

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Please please please can we have those two magical words, General Election! It would be an absolute landslide!
 

ThePrisoner

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All set up for Johnson to ride to the rescue... would they dare?
100%. He will come back branded as the saviour of the party.
Would the new King (who likes to do things differently) allow a party, which is so unpopular with the country, to indulge themselves in yet another leadership election during an economic crisis? Or would he insist on a fresh mandate through a General Election?
It's not up to him FFS.
 

Billy Horner

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100%. He will come back branded as the saviour of the party.

It's not up to him FFS.
Yes, it is. The dissolution of Parliament has been returned to the Royal Prerogative following the repeal of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.

The sovereign is bound by convention, but there is no convention for that situation. In the same way as the sovereign can refuse the PM’s request to dissolve Parliament (under the Lascelles Principles), he can also choose to dissolve it against the PM’s advice if it’s in the national interest.

Whether he would or not is a completely different matter.
 
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ThePrisoner

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Yes, it is. The dissolution of Parliament has been returned to the Royal Prerogative following the repeal of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.

The sovereign is bound by convention, but there is no convention for that situation. In the same way as the sovereign can refuse the PM’s request to dissolve Parliament (under the Lascelles Principles), he can also choose to dissolve it against the PM’s advice if it’s in the national interest.
If a resurrected Johnson can show that he can command the house then he will for a government regardless of what Big Ears wants.
 

Funky_Chicken

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It’ll only take a few months of msm brainwashing prior to the election to get the required number of voters back on the side of the Tories - this is a very right wing country after all
 

Ironops

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Something Im finding strange is the fact the Lib Dems are not going up in the polls. In previous times when the Tories have been unpopular they have lost some support to Labour but also a decent chunk to the Libs - mainly in southern and home counties seats and the more affluent parts of London and the west country.

In 1992 when the Tories were unpopular the libs got 17%, in 97 and 2001 a similar amount in 2005 and 2010 they reached the mid 20s. All the while the Tories were in the low to mid 30's. There has always been a section of more 'one nation' type tory voters who will vote Lib when they are fed up with a Tory govt.

So its strange that in all the recent polls there seems to be a massive switch from Tory to Labour but no real movement from Tory to Lib.

It feels off to be honest
 

Chris_Boro

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Something Im finding strange is the fact the Lib Dems are not going up in the polls. In previous times when the Tories have been unpopular they have lost some support to Labour but also a decent chunk to the Libs - mainly in southern and home counties seats and the more affluent parts of London and the west country.

In 1992 when the Tories were unpopular the libs got 17%, in 97 and 2001 a similar amount in 2005 and 2010 they reached the mid 20s. All the while the Tories were in the low to mid 30's. There has always been a section of more 'one nation' type tory voters who will vote Lib when they are fed up with a Tory govt.

So its strange that in all the recent polls there seems to be a massive switch from Tory to Labour but no real movement from Tory to Lib.

It feels off to be honest


If Labour look like winning by such a landslide then the Lib Dems will not benefit from tactical voting or a protest vote.
 

gregorgregorovich

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It’ll only take a few months of msm brainwashing prior to the election to get the required number of voters back on the side of the Tories - this is a very right wing country after all
In my opinion, we're not a very right wing country. We may have a Government which is right wing or is in hock to the ultra right fanatics of the ERG or CRG or whatever acronym they next choose to disguise their true colours, but even at the last election parties of the centre left gained a majority of the vote. I think I worked it out at the time, to around 54% to 46%.
 

HolgateCorner

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In my opinion, we're not a very right wing country. We may have a Government which is right wing or is in hock to the ultra right fanatics of the ERG or CRG or whatever acronym they next choose to disguise their true colours, but even at the last election parties of the centre left gained a majority of the vote. I think I worked it out at the time, to around 54% to 46%.
Agree, this country is moderate more than anything but it loves ‘sensible Labour’.
 
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