FatCat
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I’d be very surprised if someone
Wanting to visit the uk factored that into their decision making.
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- Thread starter SmallTown
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Wanting to visit the uk factored that into their decision making.
SmallTown
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Nice one Col. a lot of people on here are strengthening my point. Brexit is so bad you can’t even begin to defend it. Not even slightly now. So you either deflect from it or you insult the people who point out just how bad it is. As was mentioned before no I didn’t vote for Al. And I certainly voted remain. I guess lying comes naturally to a brexiteer
Colin Warnek
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Apparently you voted for Al's Get Brexit Done Party. I didn't personally - wouldn't vote for those shysters whatever my opinions on the EU.
SmallTown
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Well done you. That’s a great Brexit deflection. I mean it seems to be the only one you have when talking to me. I guess it’s easier to personally insult me than to try and defend Brexit. Which proves my point that you can’t defend it
Smogonthethames
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Liar!!!!!!! Listed. Cheers
I realise now, after reading so many posts on this board (mostly by my mentor Smalltown), that my failures as a former Brexiteer have been well and truly exposed.
It is clear, if you support Brexit, then you are the following:
a) Thick
b) a Failure
c) Ignorant
d) Racist
E) a War monger
F) a Tory
G) a flag shagger
H) a Little Englander
.... please feel free to add to the list
I) Idiotic
J) no self respect
K) Sarcastic
L Denier
M) Shortly to be Unemployed
N) Pathetic
O) Lunatic
P) Rabid
Q) Liar
SmallTown
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QED!
Name a benefit of Brexit
Colin Warnek
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I’m not personally insulting you just mentioning which way you voted. According to this thread. Have no idea if it’s true. If you regard ToryVoter as an insult then it’s probably best not to vote for them.
Andy_W
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You don't have to, but it can be a major consequence of your visit, like has happened to me about 20 times when visiting non-inclusive data countries for work.
Just add it to the extremely long list of problems, each like this may not be monumental (not as bad as loss of single market/ customs union etc), but when there's loads of them, it becomes a massive reason to not bother with the UK.
There is no way that all these small hurdles do not sum up to a large hurdle, not when you have closer countries who are trying to work with you, not against you, and who can do it far simpler and for less cost/ hassle.
Andy_W
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2/3 of A, C and D get ticked by almost every brexit voter I have on my social media feeds.
I don't think B applies to a lot, as a lot are old, retired and have their pensions locked (for now), so they've "made it" and are no longer at real financial risk (like those they voted against), or at risk of being unemployed (like those they voted against), as they're retired.
You missed off selfish and/ or gullible, which applies to >80% IMO, but most when trying to be selfish, are actually just being gullible (used by the elites), and are likely causing themselves (or their descendants) future damage.
Wiseman_Vaughn
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I get AC&D (and a couple of others are insinuated) and I din't even vote for Brexit
SmallTown
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Name a benefit of Brexit
Andy_W
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I wonder how many closet racists are dying to type "to get the ........ out", or who would be muttering it to their backward mates tonight in the pub, I hear it quite often on sites.
We all know that was their main reason, that's why they struggle to come up with other reasons when asked, and why all of them have little logic when scrutinised by experts.
There is now one less bogeyman for the UK government to hide behind when the sorry state of the country is laid at their door.
The Tories are now accountable for whatever state we are in. They always were, of course. But Brussels was a handy deflection. There will be other entities fabricated to distract and bewilder, of that I am sure. But i am also hopeful.
If I understand the party line, you voted Tory and now regret that decision. Well perhaps it will not be so easy to get one over on those of us that are easily led in the future!
And I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no
Andy_W
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The first is a very good point, but the problem is they're already blaming the EU still, for the crap they caused. They blame the EU, for looking after the EU, it's laughable. Hopefully some see through this though.
I see who ST voted for getting brought up a lot here, but there are many ways to misunderstand this (I'm not saying you have misunderstood, but others do).
A lot on here don't get that you can vote for a party and it be better for you financially (or in other ways), or locally, yet one of their main policies may not be ideal for you in its current form. 50% of brexit voters thought we were going to get a free trade deal/ single market/ customs union etc, but they were misled.
He may have thought Tories were going to walk it, so wanted a Tory MP, as they would likely get supported better by government? This is sort of happening with Houchen as TVM, he wouldn't have been able to do what he's done as a Labour TVM.
He may have just made a mistake, but it takes a big man to admit that and switch sides, much better doing that than being ignorant all your life and not jumping ship when things have blatantly not gone as planned.
I could have very easily voted Tory (I didn't, and never will again), as it would no doubt make me better off personally, but I just couldn't do it as the failure to society, and public aspects, of having tories/ brexit would likely make my family and friends lives worse, the UK would be far worse, overall it's a loss as I see it.
I don't see the point in collecting gold, when the ship you're on is sinking. You could vote for something for yourself, and argue against it for others, I know that sounds strange but it really is horses for courses, but the timing is even more important.
If people were quite central and misled once (to vote tory/ brexit), they can likely be misled again, but if they suffer great loss of circumstance then they will hate the tories, and move away from that central point as a starting block. Once bitten, twice shy etc.
I think BJ and the tories have got a short term win with brexit, but it's a long term loss in my eyes, they might hold onto the next election (I see it 50/50), but they won't get the one after that I'm sure. Unless they rig the vote of course, by changing boundaries (which they've started doing).
I have observed that you often resort to peddling stereotypes when discussing a topic which stirs your emotion. In a recent thread around vaccinations, for example, you linked people opposed to vaccination with holiday travel to Benidorm.
This is obviously much less problematic than linking Muslims to terrorism, or whatever it may be, but you are operating the same mental mechanisms as the people you deplore
I think it is worth mention, and perhaps reflection.
To be very clear, I am not accusing you of being racist, or anything of the sort.
Same_as_before
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£35 billion a year not paid in club fees.
A blue passport
Not having to put up with Nigel Farage
Ireland, Spain, and God knows how many other countries not having a legal right to put laws on to me.
I see Cameron , Gideon et Al were right about the £ equalling the euro, housing collapsing, and their other miriad of pre referendum lies.
I Iave zero sympathy to a bloke who uses Lunatic as an insult, who uses liar to someone he does not know, refuses to retract when the evidence is given, voted for a party he seemingly despises.
But being a human being I am concerned with your mental health.
SmallTown
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Yes. £35 billion a yeah. I so you’ve ignored the EU subsidies we used to get. You must have forgotten them. How does that compare to the current damage being done to the economy?
SmallTown
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They just can’t name one that isn’t racist to be fair. It must be such a dilemma. Well actually no it isn’t, it’s why they chose to insult me instead. Much easier than either admitting you are wrong or declaring yourself a racist. I’ll keep asking until I get an answer. At least same as before tried. I assume he was joking though as the second thing he could come up with was the colour of a passport that is allowed in the EU
Same_as_before
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You agreed yes, a step forward.
Do you still think I am a liar ? Or a loony?
Where has the economy bombed? More cars exported, more jobs in finance, can't judge on tourism due to covid, the £ stable, unfortunately houses still seem to get more expensive, again cannot judge on employment due to covid, it seems we still have a NHS, defense, a police force, Marton chippy still selling great fish and chips, lots of small breweries, my life has improved.
Same_as_before
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Call me a racist , now.