Simon Pegg

As a teacher and maths specialist, I agree that maths is beautiful and important. I also think that Rishi's idea is absolutely *****. Focus should be making the education system better for mathematicians, and actors, and authors, and computer programmers, and engineers and........ etc etc.

Let kids have access to what they want, and make sure every qualification teaches them to the highest possible standard,
 
bumface said:
I was good at it myself. I just felt like a fanny doing daft improvisations set by the useless teacher. It was the same with art. Just leave me alone and let me do my own stuff.
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HundredRoom said:
So beautiful
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Ahh but beauty is in the eye of the beholder...if math is your thing then let it ring, I cannot heed its calling though my son is a keen advocate

Personally, I prefer art and even nature for beauty
 
It's a dreadful policy for many reasons, but I cringe at Simon Pegg differentiating between maths and "this country's amazing reputation for creativity". Mathematics can be - should be - a creative outlet, and this country has a fantastic reputation for creative mathematicians who shouldn't be dismissed because 12 year old Pegg didn't like times tables.
 
clay said:
It's a dreadful policy for many reasons, but I cringe at Simon Pegg differentiating between maths and "this country's amazing reputation for creativity". Mathematics can be - should be - a creative outlet, and this country has a fantastic reputation for creative mathematicians who shouldn't be dismissed because 12 year old Pegg didn't like times tables.
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When did he or anyone dismiss mathematicians? Wasn't his argument that not everyone needs to be a mathematician to succeed and that all other outlets should have an equal chance to be nurtured.
 
clay said:
It's a dreadful policy for many reasons, but I cringe at Simon Pegg differentiating between maths and "this country's amazing reputation for creativity". Mathematics can be - should be - a creative outlet, and this country has a fantastic reputation for creative mathematicians who shouldn't be dismissed because 12 year old Pegg didn't like times tables.
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True, but kids who have no interest in maths are never going to be creative with maths, they are going to be forced to sit through an overly prescriptive curriculum that they resent (that would have been Pegg's experience had he been forced to do it until 18).

I think a separate curriculum should be introduced from 14+ for those kids who don't want to go on and do GCSE which is mathematical life skills - how to apply maths to everyday life (mainly financial). Most of it would be base on KS2 stuff.

Some kids aren't "academic" - apprenticeships should be brought into secondary education so that those kids who don't want to go onto A levels and further start their real education earlier
 
Left_peg said:
True, but kids who have no interest in maths are never going to be creative with maths, they are going to be forced to sit through an overly prescriptive curriculum that they resent (that would have been Pegg's view had he been forced to do it until 18).
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Oh absolutely. The way we teach maths is a f***ing disgrace. It's like teaching English by just forcing kids to spell longer and longer words for hour after hour, never letting them know that novels and plays and poetry exist, and then wondering why everyone hates English lessons
 
For the record I have even watched the Simon Pegg video. Maths may be a beautiful and hideous thing, but give me art or music or literature any day.
 
Maths is incredibly important, I enjoyed some of it but then took it to A level (when it got absolutely rock).

But last time I checked it wasn’t the thing the country was on its **** over. It’s just such a strange way to try and win back the votes they are losing.
 
In Rishi's little sheltered world he loved maths and its why he's turned himself into a millionaire prime minister, and if he can become a millionaire then there's no reason why the rest of the country can't do the same.

The problem with this theory is that it ignores the various other social and economic factors which determine where you end up in life.

He's so sheltered from real life that he's got no idea, its like when he asked the homeless guy in the soup kitchen if he works in the city, its the only world he knows.
 
clay said:
It's a dreadful policy for many reasons, but I cringe at Simon Pegg differentiating between maths and "this country's amazing reputation for creativity". Mathematics can be - should be - a creative outlet, and this country has a fantastic reputation for creative mathematicians who shouldn't be dismissed because 12 year old Pegg didn't like times tables.
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But it still can be that outlet for people who want it to be without forcing everyone else to do it, some at the expense of their other passions.

Also there’s no way to “force” 16 and 17 year olds to do anything - if they don’t want to do it lots simply just won’t bother. What will little Rishi do about that?
 
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