“Stakeknife” dead

Isn't it Steaknife? not Stakeknife and it is important.

The bloke didn't look too well in recent photos. He went to court and was prosected for holding obscene porn.

It is believed he helped us a lot in the 1980s with information on IRA hostage taking although he denies it.

He ran the IRA nutting squad and probably has a lot of enemies on both sides. Its possible he killed and tortured innocents to prove he was 100% IRA when under suspicion from his own. Such a nasty conflict was Northern Ireland.

The photo on the BBC website has been cut from a larger photo - the larger photo shows Martin McGuiness on top of a car behind F/S - its taken at a IRA funeral, when the crowd were concerned about a Loyalist attack.
 
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There`s lots out there which is still covered by the OSA....... Military Intelligence......... the Home Office .........worth digging.
See: "Who Framed Collin Wallace" (y)
 
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Redwurzel said:
Isn't it Steaknife? not Stakeknife and it is important.

The bloke didn't look too well in recent photos. He went to court and was prosected for holding obscene porn.

It is believed he helped us a lot in the 1980s with information on IRA hostage taking although he denies it.

He ran the IRA nutting squad and probably has a lot of enemies on both sides. Its possible he killed and tortured innocents to prove he was 100% IRA when under suspicion from his own. Such a nasty conflict was Northern Ireland.

The photo on the BBC website has been cut from a larger photo - the larger photo shows Martin McGuiness on top of a car behind F/S - its taken at a IRA funeral, when the crowd were concerned about a Loyalist attack.
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Who is this 'us' of whom you speak?
 
The us was British Military Intelligence in some cases, in the case of Galen Weston attempted kidnapping by the IRA, it was the Garda (Irish ROI Police force). GW was one of the richest men living in the ROI. The kidnapping was stopped and key IRA operatives were killed.
 
Redwurzel said:
Isn't it Steaknife? not Stakeknife and it is important.

The bloke didn't look too well in recent photos. He went to court and was prosected for holding obscene porn.

It is believed he helped us a lot in the 1980s with information on IRA hostage taking although he denies it.

He ran the IRA nutting squad and probably has a lot of enemies on both sides. Its possible he killed and tortured innocents to prove he was 100% IRA when under suspicion from his own. Such a nasty conflict was Northern Ireland.

The photo on the BBC website has been cut from a larger photo - the larger photo shows Martin McGuiness on top of a car behind F/S - its taken at a IRA funeral, when the crowd were concerned about a Loyalist attack.
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It’s Steaknife and Stake knife, both were used.
 
Billy Horner said:
It's 100% Stakeknife, which was the title of the book by Martin Ingram that outed Scappaticci. The Troubles podcast (worth a listen btw) has an episode about him, which also uses the spelling Stakeknife.
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Billy Horner said:
It's 100% Stakeknife, which was the title of the book by Martin Ingram that outed Scappaticci. The Troubles podcast (worth a listen btw) has an episode about him, which also uses the spelling Stakeknife.
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Correct. Both titles have been used but the book is the spelling Stakeknife. A dirty war in which neither side exactly covers themselves in glory with the behaviours that went on. The British intelligence service and the IRA are both mightily relieved now he is dead. His behaviour was a demoralising issue for the IRA because in effect the movement was being managed by the Brits in the end. Stakeknife selected who ran the campaign and would leak all the secrets to the Brits. This they did not want their followers to know. British intelligence was embarrassed because he killed other touts who they couldn’t protect. Rules on both sides were broken and he had the power to be both judge and executioner.
 
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The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A.. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.

This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organisation. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this”
 
Lemmy_kilmister said:
Bloke I used to work with a while back who was ex UDR/Royal Irish told me it was known that McGuinness was a British agent.

I wasn't so sure but I've read recently that there is speculation that he may well have been
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I’d be surprised at that given he was also widely believed to be the quartermaster of the IRA itself and let Gerry Adam’s be the public face but he was the real power.
 
See:

Collin Wallace + Operation "Clockwork Orange"

Wallace was a soldier and British Military Intelligence Officer working in psychological warfare [Psyops] in Northern Ireland.
His knowledge of the complexities of Intelligence, including intimate details of those involved in covert ops and, abuses of power, made him a potential threat to the British Establishment. They framed him to remove him from his highly sensitive role.

Worth a read (y)
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Cress said:
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The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A.. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.

This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organisation. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this”
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So obviously demonstrated on this board whenever a discussion on Ireland takes place.
 
Cress said:
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The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A.. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.

This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organisation. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this”
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Is that from a book / article / research Cress?
Be interested to read if you have a link?
Cheers (y)
 
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