8 new cities for Jubilee, not for Boro though.

Colgates_shaving_foam said:
Really your name should be largetown, there can't be many towns bigger than Boro.

You could then change it to smallcity.

Are we pretty much the only country that has this weird town/city fetish?

Don't most countries just call any large urban centre a city? They don't need someone in authority to decree it?
Click to expand...
I think the US has a distinction between town (urban area) and cities with certain legal differences. France on the other hand don’t bother.
 
My guess is that they also took in to account the towns and villages that formed the basis of Milton Keynes before it was founded.

It's not like the whole place was built on an empty field.
 
Just another example of titled privilege, favour and class status. It doesn't change us one little bit, who cares about the prefix.
Why do we have such a fixation on titles?, because it backs up the whole of the rotten class system. Totally meaningless to anyone else.
 
Zoophonic said:
I think both Reading and Boro have been overlooked because both town centres need significant upgrading. I hate Milton Keynes but the “centre” is a pleasant thriving shopping area with entertainment centres - snow dome, theatre etc.
Click to expand...
I was referring to Reading with its Pizza Express Royal Links.
 
Zoophonic said:
It’s a manufactured “town” too created in Buckinghamshire flat agricultural land with no heritage other than its next door to Bletchley which housed the enigma code breaking machine. No river, no industry, no soul. Even it’s football team was stolen off another.
Click to expand...
Marshall amplifiers too
 
The Royal links bit is a joke. I realise it's for the jubilee, but seriously, city status and greater investment based upon historical royal links?
 
From BBC Website, this is the selection 'evidence'

Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, England​

MK Dons stadium
IMAGE SOURCE,PA
Image caption,
Milton Keynes is the home of MK Dons, formed in 2004
  • It was created in 1967 to alleviate housing shortages in overcrowded London
  • With an urban area population of 171,750 (2011 census), it has 27 conservation areas, 50 scheduled monuments, 1,100 listed buildings and 270 works of public art
  • The Open University, the world's first degree-awarding, distance learning institution, was set up in Milton Keynes in 1967; and its University Hospital NHS Foundation Trust established the nation's first independent medical school
 
TeaCider said:
Disappointing.

Can't argue with most of the list, but Milton Keynes is annoying.
Click to expand...
I'd argue against all of the list, Stanley has about 2,000 people, most of them are probably forces, or forces related. I have met more than 2000 people in the forces from Teesside :LOL:
 
TeaCider said:
I thought we'd make it too, but it was always going to be only 3 for England.

1 Welsh, 1 Scottish, 1 Northern Irish, 1 Crown Dependency and 1 Overseas Territory.
Click to expand...
Doesn't make any sense having to try and scrape to find a "city" in nations with small populations, when there are others which are far bigger/ more deserving.

It's the economics of it which don't make the least sense, city status could really help drive us forward, and by god do we need it. The other places benefit from being small, and not suffering with the things which larger places have to.
 
I wasn’t sure but I knew it was a few.

Surely we are Due

As we def applied when sunlun won it as well.
 
rbmfc1985 said:
Having been to Doncaster regularly, I can see why they'd be chosen ahead of us. The Frenchgate Centre is far better than our town centre, their transport links are better, especially via train. Whenever I've been there it just seems like it had had a lot of better investment than we have.

I personally prefer living in Middlesbrough and wouldn't move there. But, on paper at least, it certainly seems better suited to city status.
Click to expand...
I think the idea of us getting City status, is that it might help improve the things we need, so they're relative and good enough to support the amount of people who use Middlesbrough "Town". The fact we have two decent sized towns, larger than most on that list, yet both criminally overlooked, even more so when you consider total population/ area.

Even if Boro got City status, it should hopefully help Stockton too. We need a City on Teesside, maybe we should just join up and call it TeeCity?
 
Andy_W said:
Doesn't make any sense having to try and scrape to find a "city" in nations with small populations, when there are others which are far bigger/ more deserving.

It's the economics of it which don't make the least sense, city status could really help drive us forward, and by god do we need it. The other places benefit from being small, and not suffering with the things which larger places have to.
Click to expand...

It was done on a country and territory basis.

If it was just done on population and economics, it would only ever be English towns winning it because there are far, far more people in England.

Wrexham was the largest remaining town in Wales, Dunfermline was the largest remaining town in Scotland, Bangor was the largest remaining town in Northern Ireland.
Douglas was the only place from the Crown Dependencies to apply, but is the largest town and capital of the Isle of Man.
Stanley is a bit different because Gibraltar also applied and I'd sooner they'd have won.

It was only ever going to be 3 English towns that were chosen, the other 5 slots were never going to be available to us.
 
TeaCider said:
It was done on a country and territory basis.

If it was just done on population and economics, it would only ever be English towns winning it because there are far, far more people in England.

Wrexham was the largest remaining town in Wales, Dunfermline was the largest remaining town in Scotland, Bangor was the largest remaining town in Northern Ireland.
Douglas was the only place from the Crown Dependencies to apply, but is the largest town and capital of the Isle of Man.
Stanley is a bit different because Gibraltar also applied and I'd sooner they'd have won.

It was only ever going to be 3 English towns that were chosen, we did not miss out because Bangor was picked.
Click to expand...
Yes, but the problem is picking from a territory list, the failing started when it was decided to be done that way.
 
Andy_W said:
Yes, but the problem is picking from a territory list, the failing started when it was decided to be done that way.
Click to expand...

I don't think that's a problem.
They allowed them to apply in a separate list, and it's the first time they've ever been able to, it wasn't in direct competition with English towns.
 
TeaCider said:
I don't think that's a problem.
They allowed them to apply in a separate list, and it's the first time they've ever been able to, it wasn't in direct competition with English towns.
Click to expand...
I thought we were meant to be the United Kingdom, just seems a bit silly awarding city status to tiny places, when others may need it far more, Scotland, Wales and NI already have cities which were far less relevant than those in England, why do they need more?

They're happy enough to take the tax from us, but this is probably preventing us getting the support we need (and Stockton/ other local areas which heavily rely on Middlesbrough).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top