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VestasBoro said:
Is capital punishment mob justice? I'd say absolutely not.
I'd say it's very easy to have an extreme opinion on capital punishment either way when you haven't been affected by a lad beating and stabbing to death, someone you love.
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Revenge is not justice. Different words, different meaning. Obviously if someone you loved was killed you would understandably desire revenge. That just leads to more and more killing.

This isn't justice, it is stomach churning, you wouldn't do it to an animal.
 
Ne67 said:
Eye for an eye just don’t know why it took so long. If it was any of my family I’d want him to have a violent death aswell. Maybe if we were a lot tougher with our judicial system crime wouldn’t pay as much as it does.
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Aye if this fella attacked and killed my mam in the way this woman died, i wouldn't give two ***** about how violent his death was. If he went by injection, gas, or a doing over by another inmate but i agree that's wanting revenge and acting emotionally but thats how i'd feel as a loved one of a victim.

Taking emotion out, i still feel if you commit murder you deserve to spend the rest of your life behind bars with no chance of parole. Why do you get to leave prison and go create another life for yourself where you can potentially experience joy, happiness etc - because you spent 20 years in prison? I don't think so.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Their judicial system is tougher yet they have a horrendous murder rate.

You're wrong. You just want revenge.
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Yes I would want revenge. I’m more thinking about how our judicial system is in general too many people going to court getting a cuddle and just keep carrying on committing crimes.
 
Ne67 said:
Eye for an eye just don’t know why it took so long. If it was any of my family I’d want him to have a violent death aswell. Maybe if we were a lot tougher with our judicial system crime wouldn’t pay as much as it does.
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I'm sure someone will tell you what will happen if we take an eye for an eye.

This man has been in prison since 1989 and the state of Alabama tried and failed to execute him by lethal injection in 2022. Imagine that for one second, being prepared and taken from your cell to be executed and the fear that must be running through you. The state fails in the execution because they can't raise a vein. They won't have just tried like your local GP, I would guess they tried for some time. He's had to go through that process again of being prepared to be executed and finally, he is executed by using Nitrogen Gas, something that's never been tried before and the whole process takes 25 minutes including the 9 minutes to die. A journalist who witnessed the execution described how he thrashed violently on the gurney.

I hope you feel revenge was served.

No one as the right to take another man's life, whatever the crime.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
I'm sure someone will tell you what will happen if we take an eye for an eye.

This man has been in prison since 1989 and the state of Alabama tried and failed to execute him by lethal injection in 2022. Imagine that for one second, being prepared and taken from your cell to be executed and the fear that must be running through you. The state fails in the execution because they can't raise a vein. They won't have just tried like your local GP, I would guess they tried for some time. He's had to go through that process again of being prepared to be executed and finally, he is executed by using Nitrogen Gas, something that's never been tried before and the whole process takes 25 minutes including the 9 minutes to die. A journalist who witnessed the execution described how he thrashed violently on the gurney.

I hope you feel revenge was served.

No one as the right to take another man's life, whatever the crime.
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I’m sure when he violently killed this woman he was one second thinking about her. Let’s live in Middlesbrough violently kill someone here serve your sentence get out then do it again like a certain person did here. Just think if that was your daughter or your mother or sister. Everyone has there own opinions and that’s how it should be I’m just expressing mine.
 
I heard that vets in the USA would not use this method to kill an animal, in fact their association had banned it, but the State Government of Alabama thought it was fine to use on a human.

As a broad point - The police and justice system are far from perfect, over the years there has been a constant stream of actions they have got wrong, even with DNA technology. Those that are happy with executing people have to say themselves would they execute their own relative if they were found guilty of murder.
 
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Ne67 said:
I’m sure when he violently killed this woman he was one second thinking about her. Let’s live in Middlesbrough violently kill someone here serve your sentence get out then do it again like a certain person did here. Just think if that was your daughter or your mother or sister. Everyone has there own opinions and that’s how it should be I’m just expressing mine.
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I am glad you feel empowered to express your opinion openly, it makes the world a better and a more healthier place for all of us when we are able to do that. I feel that forgiveness is a personal choice and can be challenging when people feel that justice isn't being served but no one will ever convince me that taking another man's life for crimes committed is a step in the right direction. You only have to look at the number of murders committed in America to note it isn't a deterrent.

I think the use of the death penalty as a deterrent will continue to be a divisive issue with those wanting retribution for severe crimes and those that support alternative forms of punishment, such as life imprisonment without parole, ensuring that individuals are removed from society without resorting to state sanctioned killing. I think this argument should not be confused with condoning what the perpetrator has done.
 
Adding to NC's point - the US states with the death penalty tend the be the States with the highest murders per head of population.
 
Frozen Horse said:
This is why victims don't get a say in what is, or is not justice. It's almost impossible for them to distinguish between justice and revenge.
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Absolutely. It should be decided by a group of people who have no stake in the issue whatsoever, to allow them to proclaim themselves as good people, whilst condemning the victim as a savage who is after revenge.
 
I'll be honest, if somebody stabbed my mam 8 times in the chest and 2 times in the neck, i'd have loved every minute of his execution.
 
DanBoro4499 said:
I'll be honest, if somebody stabbed my mam 8 times in the chest and 2 times in the neck, i'd have loved every minute of his execution.
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This I think is weird. I'm against the death penalty, but in such a circumstance I could find myself wishing for someone's death. Maybe even having grim satisfaction that "revenge" had been done and an evil taken from the world. But "loving every minute" of his execution, that's just an alarming comment really.
 
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