Another actual brexit benefit

[Randy]

Any shortages on the supermarket shelves to report? It's been a while.

 

[Andy_W]

Any shortages on the supermarket shelves to report? It's been a while.

Quite a few in Coulby Tesco, nothing mental, no massive gaps from what I remember, but certainly less choice. It's like they've filled the gaps with bog rolls to make things look better.

Even worse than this is the expiry dates on things are becoming absolutely shocking.

Not that I give a toss about dates personally, I'll eat owt as long as it looks/ smells ok, but our lass won't let anyone else eat it (even the dog), we end up wasting loads or doing more trips.

 

[SmallTown]

Any shortages on the supermarket shelves to report? It's been a while.

Any benefit of brexit to report? It's been, will about 7 years since that NHS bus. Can't recall another benefit since then

 

[Laughing]

Quite a few in Coulby Tesco, nothing mental, no massive gaps from what I remember, but certainly less choice.

Even worse than this is the expiry dates on things are becoming absolutely shocking.

Not that I give a toss about dates personally, I'll eat owt as long as it looks/ smells ok, but our lass won't let anyone else eat it (even the dog), we end up wasting loads or doing more trips.

I'm with you on sell by dates. Eat it until it smells like it will make you ill.

 

[Andy_W]

I'm with you on sell by dates. Eat it until it smells like it will make you ill.

I think me doing that has built up one hell of an immune system.

Even if I eat owt dodgy, and I realise quite soon after, then it's back out the other end in no time

 

[Randy]

Quite a few in Coulby Tesco, nothing mental, no massive gaps from what I remember, but certainly less choice. It's like they've filled the gaps with bog rolls to make things look better.

Even worse than this is the expiry dates on things are becoming absolutely shocking.

Not that I give a toss about dates personally, I'll eat owt as long as it looks/ smells ok, but our lass won't let anyone else eat it (even the dog), we end up wasting loads or doing more trips.

Thanks for the sensible update Andy. I was just checking on others as we spent nearly £200 in Aldi yesterday (big monthly shop plus some things for Xmas) and we managed to get everything on our list plus some extras we liked the look of.
The tension at the checkouts though when the lass on the checkout is scanning your items at warp speed is nerve shredding. You can feel the eyes of the bag packing veterans staring holes through you because you aren't loading your trolley up quick enough.

 

[Centralscrutinizer]

Any shortages on the supermarket shelves to report? It's been a while.

Poor quality ginger in Saltburn Sainsbury's at the moment, not good, not good at all, last nights stir fry was compromised

 

[SmallTown]

Thanks for the sensible update Andy. I was just checking on others as we spent nearly £200 in Aldi yesterday (big monthly shop plus some things for Xmas) and we managed to get everything on our list plus some extras we liked the look of.
The tension at the checkouts though when the lass on the checkout is scanning your items at warp speed is nerve shredding. You can feel the eyes of the bag packing veterans staring holes through you because you aren't loading your trolley up quick enough.

Any benefit of brexit to report? Unless you think "some people can still eat" Is a benefit

 

[Laughing]

Please please practice what you preach. BTW not engaging with me would probably include not whining about me all day as well. Let's hope, this time, your actions match your words

Don't be a d*ck and I won't - it really is as simple as that.

 

[SmallTown]

Don't be a d*ck and I won't - it really is as simple as that.

We shall see. I'd like to believe you but you've said a lot and done the opposite so far. I hope you can keep to your word this time

 

[Ex pfc wintergreen]

But not unknown. Do you think the long term shrinking of the economy will have a positive, or negative affect on the people in this country?

The economy expands and shrinks all the time,nothing to see here.

 

[Andy_W]

Thanks for the sensible update Andy. I was just checking on others as we spent nearly £200 in Aldi yesterday (big monthly shop plus some things for Xmas) and we managed to get everything on our list plus some extras we liked the look of.
The tension at the checkouts though when the lass on the checkout is scanning your items at warp speed is nerve shredding. You can feel the eyes of the bag packing veterans staring holes through you because you aren't loading your trolley up quick enough.

I appreciate Aldi's efficiency, can't stand wasting time standing in supermarkets whilst the people in front are gassing, winds me up.

I'll more than happily put up with the checkout person throwing gear at me, to avoid that

 

[Unravel_Morrison]

Any shortages on the supermarket shelves to report? It's been a while.

Yes, local supermarkets round here don't seem to be getting their sandwiches for their meal deals. Got a Sainsbury, Tesco, M & S food and a Waitrose close to work and they're all suffering from a shortage on the chilled shelves.

Doesn't affect you though so I probably imagined it.

 

[SmallTown]

The economy expands and shrinks all the time,nothing to see here.

Again ignorance. It'll shrink by 4% longterm. Because of something that can be easily fixed, yet something you support. Why do you want the country to be poorer? Why do you hate people from poor areas and want them to suffer? It seems unkind to me

 

[Ex pfc wintergreen]

Again ignorance. It'll shrink by 4% longterm. Because of something that can be easily fixed, yet something you support. Why do you want the country to be poorer? Why do you hate people from poor areas and want them to suffer? It seems unkind to me

What a bizzarre line of debate,you voted Tory not me,live with it Mr IR35,.

 

[Lefty]

You could say much the same about any vote Lefty. Most people have a political team rather than cast a vote based on manifesto.

Many voted remain as the devil they knew, without understanding the ramifications.

Asking people to vote on a trade union was the problem rather than how people cast their vote.

People are free to vote how they choose without others attacking them for it.

And finally, most people realise it has been implemented badly and probably don't feel the need to apologise and nor should they. This idea that a cast vote needs to be explained is just nonsense.

Some may believe they are owed an explanation, they aren't.

If people voted because they have a political team, which I am quite aware happens, then that is NOT adopting the same best practice decision making process that we usually apply to the important decisions we make in our personal life.

Or do you disagree with that?

'Many voted remain as the devil they knew, without understanding the ramifications.'

Yes, they did.

'People are free to vote how they choose.....'

Of course they are

'.........without others attacking them for it.'

No. But you use the word 'attack' which it can and has developed into, but is misleading as to what is really going on. People are free to assess the reasons other people made the choice they made and judge them for it. If someone made a stupid decision, the fact that they were free to make that decision does not in of itself mean that it was not a stupid one. They don't get a free pass on that just because it was their right to be stupid.

I make stupid decisions all the time. I don't look back on them and say 'well, since no-one was holding a gun to my head it was a free decision, therefore by default that makes it an intelligent or correct one'.

What I do is I own my mistake. First and foremost. Well, hopefully. Sometimes I refuse to accept I could possibly have made a mistake, because I'm great me. But when I'm not being an arrogant Peter Perfect, then I look at it and try to understand why I made that mistake. What did I get wrong? What didn't I do, what could I have done?

For instance, I might ask was it an error in collecting the information that was available to me. Could I have gathered more information that would have left me better informed to make an evaluation? Or was I too lazy to do that? Did I trust to luck? Did I only consider opinions or information I wanted to believe?

Or was the error not that I didn't gather sufficient information, but that I didn't evaluate the information properly? That is a different failure.

Or did I gather sufficient information and evaluate it correctly, but did I make an error in predicting the likely consequences of the choices? That is yet another type of failure.

That we all do those things makes us human. It doesn't mean we aren't stupid. At least to some degree. You can use a different word if you like. Lazy might be more appropriate if that is what you were. Is being too lazy to gather all the information you need to make the best decision an intelligent thing to do, or is it just a little bit stupid? There are more appropriate words for every type of failure in the decision making process, but I've looked for the one word that can be applied to all the failures and unfortunately (since everyone puts their own especially pejorative definition on the word setting backs) the only one that manages a one size fits all description is 'stupidity'. For instance 'lazy' doesn't work for someone who gathered lots of information but didn't evaluate it very well, or misunderstood the consequences of the solution they went for.

'And finally, most people realise it has been implemented badly..'

It has, but it became fairly obvious to those who understood the issues that it was always going to be difficult and would lead to problems, because Brexit, as promised, was an undeliverable pipe dream. It also became very apparent early on that these people who had advocated and persuaded people to vote for this, were ignorant, lazy and incompetent at anything other than telling people what they wanted to hear.

'....and probably don't feel the need to apologise and nor should they. This idea that a cast vote needs to be explained is just nonsense. Some may believe they are owed an explanation, they aren't.'

I don't fully agree with this, but maybe I will return to this at a later time.

 

[SmallTown]

What a bizzarre line of debate,you voted Tory not me,live with it Mr IR35,.

It's not bizarre at all but I'll break it down for you: Brexit will cause a long term contraction of the economy. This contraction will disproportionately affect people from poorer areas. You support brexit and have defended this contraction.
Therefore you support poorer areas struggling.

Not a look I would go for to be honest, especially not on a website from one of the less economically strong parts of the country. But hey, if you want people to struggle then fine.

 

[Randy]

I appreciate Aldi's efficiency, can't stand wasting time standing in supermarkets whilst the people in front are gassing, winds me up.

I'll more than happily put up with the checkout person throwing gear at me, to avoid that

I was frightened for my life.

 

[Trug]

Quite a few in Coulby Tesco, nothing mental, no massive gaps from what I remember, but certainly less choice. It's like they've filled the gaps with bog rolls to make things look better.

Even worse than this is the expiry dates on things are becoming absolutely shocking.

Not that I give a toss about dates personally, I'll eat owt as long as it looks/ smells ok, but our lass won't let anyone else eat it (even the dog), we end up wasting loads or doing more trips.

Andy- are we both married to the same woman

 

[Lefty]

No I can't agree that you know how everyone evaluated, it was a choice,stay or go, people's reasons for choosing which way they voted are myriad. What I do know is it's done .

I agree, I can't know how every individual evaluated unless they tell me. I agree there were a myriad of individual reasons.

That does not mean that therefore most, some or even any didn't fail the process. There were just a myriad of individual ways to fail.

All I need is for the individuals to step up and have the courage to put their reasons on the line and be scrutinised. It is telling that none have.

Giving A reason, or even two or three, is the most you get. That is not showing your workings, it is simply pointing out one, two or three things you don't like.