Applause silencing the booing of taking the knee

Johnny Vincents Motorbike said:
There’s no rule against “disrespecting the knee”. If a bunch of aging football fans wants to boo and fulminate against a player-led anti-racist initiative, and convince themselves that by doing so they are keeping their country safe from Marxism, then they should be free to do so. And everyone else should be free to make up their own minds about what is really going on.

as Muttley says, we need the 'knee' so long as the Boo's keep going, its a small non violent gesture - but we all know that no gesture however small for Equality & Racism across the broader society will be acceptable to the racist ignoramus's.

we are many and they are few.
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Why do you say ageing?
 
Someone said earlier it seemed to be from the South West corner. I suppose it could have been but I was busy clapping to try and drown it out in the West block 72 (edge of the south penalty area) and I honestly thought it was the Red Faction. Or coming from the south stand anyway.

The unfortunate thing is boos are heard much more easily even if only from a few. I actually heard the odd moron boo when the announcer introduced Warnock. Thankfully the Red Faction did what they do best and gave him a fantastic welcome.
 
festa5 said:
Depends what you mean by "time to move on" . If you mean the message is no longer effective and different, stronger action tackle racism is needed then yes, fair enough, absolutely. 👍

I think that was the gist of why the Boro players stopped.
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yes thats what i meant as in its been done to death now and those that choose to boo are probably fed up to the back teeth of seeing this every week. Fair play to F1 still showing the drivers every race (even if only half of them are choosing to participate) its become part of the pre race broadcast now
 
Davey_C said:
yes thats what i meant as in its been done to death now and those that choose to boo are probably fed up to the back teeth of seeing this every week. Fair play to F1 still showing the drivers every race (even if only half of them are choosing to participate) its become part of the pre race broadcast now
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Only racists would be fed up to the back teeth of someone standing up to racism. These fed up to the back teeth racists should be kicked out of football stadiums for life.
 
Davey_C said:
im not racist but i think the message has been delivered and that is that .. time to move on like the boro players have decided and many F-1 drivers but each to their own. id never boo by the way
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"I'm not sure racist but..." mmm huh!

You're wrong about the message BTW. As the abuse felt by the young England stars after the European championships final shows, we still need to spread the message that we stand against racism.
 
Davey_C said:
yes thats what i meant as in its been done to death now and those that choose to boo are probably fed up to the back teeth of seeing this every week. Fair play to F1 still showing the drivers every race (even if only half of them are choosing to participate) its become part of the pre race broadcast now
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Yeah sorry got to agree with others. Some people might think it's pointless because they think it's not working and/or just allows the authorities to play lip service to the issue etc. But you wouldn't boo for that reason, there's nothing objectionable to it.

It's a bit like applauding the NHS. I'm not a huge fan because applause doesn't pay nurses wages and allows politicians to make out they're champions of the NHS without doing anything tangible etc. Bit of a hollow gesture IMO albeit well intentioned. But I'm not against the gesture of applause itself. I certainly wouldn't want to boo anyone doing it, to do so would be bizarre. Unless I actually hated the NHS and support for it offended me in some way.
 
I didn't notice anyone take the knee, genuinely perplexed as to when it occurred...was it before or after the 1 minutes applause?
 
SmallTown said:
"I'm not sure racist but..." mmm huh!

You're wrong about the message BTW. As the abuse felt by the young England stars after the European championships final shows, we still need to spread the message that we stand against racism.
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What happened to those young England players just signaled how big a problem it still is. Is it a football thing? Trolling from a keyboard is even worse as these people think they are untracable.

I bet no one has an issue with players taking the knee in Rugby for example would you hear booing at a sold out Twickenham or a sold out Silverstone a few weeks ago?
 
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festa5 said:
It's a bit like applauding the NHS. I'm not a huge fan because applause doesn't pay nurses wages and allows politicians to make out they're champions of the NHS without doing anything tangible etc. Bit of a hollow gesture IMO albeit well intentioned. But I'm not against the gesture of applause itself. I certainly wouldn't want to boo anyone doing it, to do so would be bizarre. Unless I actually hated the NHS and support for it offended me in some way.
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Same here, after a few weeks (it went on far too long) if I was in a Supermarket at 8pm I didn't put my basket down and start clapping for a minute then carry on with my shopping. Yes these NHS workers have worked wonders during the pandemic, doing what they are paid to do at the end of the day and more than likely going that extra mile.

Yes their jobs will have changed massively since COVID arrived and many lost their lives trying to save other peoples lives at the start of the pandemic and the Goverment should have rewarded people in this sector and not insulted them. Supermarket staff were rewarded/paid a bonus' for all the extra work/hours they put in as a result of COVID
 
It isn't an ageing group of racists - what I've witnessed with England since the Euro Nations in Porto and what I have seen and heard with Boro home and away is that large groups of young lads are the loudest racist voices. That was the case with the booing at Fulham, Blackpool and yesterday - It isn't a problem that is going to die out in a hurry unless we can figure out ways to change it.
 
I didn't hear many boos where I was (family zone) and those I did hear sounded like lone voices. Almost everyone around where I was applauded when Bristol and one of Boro's players took the knee.

I don't think anyone is booing for opposition to the "political statement". Players have consistently explained what the gesture is for and not one of them seems to want this to be the catalyst for an international prolaterian revolution. If people are booing then it's hard to believe that they are doing so for any other reason than their own racist beliefs.
 
rbmfc1985 said:
I didn't hear many boos where I was (family zone) and those I did hear sounded like lone voices. Almost everyone around where I was applauded when Bristol and one of Boro's players took the knee.

I don't think anyone is booing for opposition to the "political statement". Players have consistently explained what the gesture is for and not one of them seems to want this to be the catalyst for an international prolaterian revolution. If people are booing then it's hard to believe that they are doing so for any other reason than their own racist beliefs.
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Which Boro player?

Yes if you can't just ignore it for 5 seconds then you are booing to show your racism, rather than just keeping it to yourself
 
rbmfc1985 said:
I didn't hear many boos where I was (family zone) and those I did hear sounded like lone voices. Almost everyone around where I was applauded when Bristol and one of Boro's players took the knee.

I don't think anyone is booing for opposition to the "political statement". Players have consistently explained what the gesture is for and not one of them seems to want this to be the catalyst for an international prolaterian revolution. If people are booing then it's hard to believe that they are doing so for any other reason than their own racist beliefs.
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100%

The Marxism reasoning (excuse) is just what people have no doubt read on social media and gives them convenient cover. I doubt the majority of racist Neanderthals we sadly have to share oxygen with, had heard of Marxism 12 months ago let alone understand it.
 
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