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Didn't say he doesn't care about the club, but he hasn't given a toss about the fans for years.If he doesn't care why is he still here?
Didn't say he doesn't care about the club, but he hasn't given a toss about the fans for years.If he doesn't care why is he still here?
Yes sure, I’ve perhaps not worded it too well but my point was there are better ways to generate the very small (relatively) additional income quoted. And that was how the Bayern Munich guy phrased it which I liked.But surely if we spent less on players then we would not compete at the top of the table and support would drop off.
Of course we all want cheaper tickets but realistically we are going to have to work towards that next season.
What do you mean? - it costs £41 to sit behind a goal at either end at Leeds. That is £9 more than at Boro. And they have parachute payments.Do you not think that's actually worse?
They've got a waiting list for season ticket holders yet still don't rip their fans off. The demand is actually there and they could probably raise their prices by £100 and still sell their STs but they don't
Their cheapest season tickets for 24/25 are £435What do you mean? - it costs £41 to sit behind a goal at either end at Leeds. That is £9 more than at Boro. And they have parachute payments.
Do we know how many there are though at this rate? It is a great price but are there 500 or 5000?Their cheapest season tickets for 24/25 are £435
It's not free; it's included in the price.Do we know how many there are though at this rate? It is a great price but are there 500 or 5000?
Should we compare that price to our Family Enclosure tickets - £510 but kids get in free with this - I think that is 600 free tickets. I know this is a specific area but it is actually a lot of tickets.
That's what the club are banking on. Fans hope.No we are not - but everyone renewing is surely doing so in the hope that we will be next season.
Hi RoofieIf you get hold of a copy of the latest FMTTM Mag - there's a very interesting article about a chap and his Dad have been attending games since the Ayresome Angels days at Ayresome Park. In it, he describes why he and his Dad have felt a gradual disconnect between football and the average fan. He quotes lots of examples. He also points to the huge cost of a season card for him and his Dad and has decided not to renew for the first time in well over 50 years. Furthermore, he says he will listen to BBC Tees and has decided that is IT for him and his Dad. Well worth a read.
True but if you are taking a couple of kids under 11 it only costs you either £9 or £10 each for the kids depending on game category.What do you mean? - it costs £41 to sit behind a goal at either end at Leeds. That is £9 more than at Boro. And they have parachute payments.
If he doesn't care why is he still here?
I believe he is still driven by a mission to take us back into the top flight.
He isn't in it for his own glory or for his own financial gain. He personally is losing out massively. You may say he can afford it but it is still millions of pounds a year.
I think he believes with so much bad stuff happening around here that the club both as a major employer and also as a deliverer of dreams is more important than ever to the morale of Teesside.
I know I will be attacked for this - but that is what I reckon he really believes.
In my experience they are well on top of the figures and care very much indeed. It will hurt them a great deal if there is a big decline in ticket sales - and that will hurt all of us in terms of match experience and possibly in terms of ability to compete. I really don't take to the argument that we should buy less players - I do not believe most people would want to pay for a team sinking down the divisions. And as Lennie Lawrence said you cannot stand still in football you spring forward or fall back.
What is the answer? I really don't know - football at the Championship level is in an appalling mess financially - the Premier League has a lot to answer for and a lot of money it refuses to share.
Missing the point re buying less players (see full reply). Not suggesting that at all. Should generate more income and buy more / better players, we all want that. The money from this, if it was realised and it won’t be for me, is a drop in the ocean and the terrible way it’s been communicated will result in a loss not a gain.If he doesn't care why is he still here?
I believe he is still driven by a mission to take us back into the top flight.
He isn't in it for his own glory or for his own financial gain. He personally is losing out massively. You may say he can afford it but it is still millions of pounds a year.
I think he believes with so much bad stuff happening around here that the club both as a major employer and also as a deliverer of dreams is more important than ever to the morale of Teesside.
I know I will be attacked for this - but that is what I reckon he really believes.
In my experience they are well on top of the figures and care very much indeed. It will hurt them a great deal if there is a big decline in ticket sales - and that will hurt all of us in terms of match experience and possibly in terms of ability to compete. I really don't take to the argument that we should buy less players - I do not believe most people would want to pay for a team sinking down the divisions. And as Lennie Lawrence said you cannot stand still in football you spring forward or fall back.
What is the answer? I really don't know - football at the Championship level is in an appalling mess financially - the Premier League has a lot to answer for and a lot of money it refuses to share.
LinnyThat's what the club are banking on. Fans hope.
In reality we are paying the highest costs in the division but being out performed by many others year after year. Since relegation in 2009 we have had one promotion season and 3 play off seasons (one final) in 14 years.
10 years of 14 outside of the play offs but paying the highest prices, something doesn't add up.
That was true in the past, but he isn't losing out now by continuing with his mission, compared to the alternatives. Yes he wants to take us back to the top flight, and partly because he wants the Teesside public to benefit from it (and partly because he wants to be revered for it again), but partly because it will raise the value of his asset substantially as well.If he doesn't care why is he still here?
I believe he is still driven by a mission to take us back into the top flight.
He isn't in it for his own glory or for his own financial gain. He personally is losing out massively. You may say he can afford it but it is still millions of pounds a year.
If its £41 at Leeds for adult and £10 for child that is £51 for adult and child @ Leeds. How is that cheaper than at Boro?True but if you are taking a couple of kids under 11 it only costs you either £9 or £10 each for the kids depending on game category.
Not forgetting they very well might be in the PL.Their cheapest season tickets for 24/25 are £435
Yeah they've stated same prices for either division. Obviously price per match does increase if they are promoted because it covers 4 less gamesNot forgetting they very well might be in the PL.
Indeed but if you were a casual fan living in North Yorkshire who fancied getting into football for a club in the vicinity what would you rather pay, £435 for 19 matches in the PL or £510 for 23 matches in the Championship?Yeah they've stated same prices for either division. Obviously price per match does increase if they are promoted because it covers 4 less games
I said a couple of kids read the post.If its £41 at Leeds for adult and £10 for child that is £51 for adult and child @ Leeds. How is that cheaper than at Boro?