Carrick - Big Game Bottler

newusername said:
Championship
29-Oct-22​
Preston2 - 1MiddlesbroughLFirst game in charge, chance to start with a bang & ends up with a damp squib.
Championship
17-Dec-22​
Burnley3 - 1MiddlesbroughLChance to show Boro's revival had real substance against the top team in the Div. Took lead & lost.
FA Cup
07-Jan-23​
Middlesbrough1 - 5BrightonLFree hit against a Prem team which was closer to bottom (gap 15pts) than top (17pts), didn't turn up.
Championship
22-Jan-23​
Sunderland2 - 0MiddlesbroughLLocal derby with more than pride resting on it. Out performed by opponent.
Championship
25-Feb-23​
West Brom2 - 0MiddlesbroughLChance to turn the screw on Sheff Utd, 2 down in 10 minutes and never looked like getting back into it.
Championship
01-Apr-23​
Huddersfield4 - 2MiddlesbroughLLeading 1-0 at halftime potentially closing the gap to 1 pt but massive bottle job & end up losing 4-2, gap to 2nd now 6 pts.
Championship
07-Apr-23​
Middlesbrough1 - 2BurnleyLDidn't expect much to be honest & didn't get it.
Championship
24-Apr-23​
Luton2 - 1MiddlesbroughLRace for 3rd, capitulated.
Championship
01-May-23​
Rotherham1 - 0MiddlesbroughLRace for 3rd, capitulated against a team trying to avoid relegation.
Championship Play-Off
14-May-23​
Coventry0 - 0MiddlesbroughDContent with a clean sheet rather than trying to win the game.
Championship Play-Off
17-May-23​
Middlesbrough0 - 1CoventryLHome game, just needed to win. Controlled possession but players seemed scared to play through balls or make runs behind. Could still be playing now & don't think we'd score.
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West Brom, Huddersfield, Rotherham.. meat and potatoes old school championship football. Coventry served us up the very same last night.
 
Philly-Red said:
By any chance were you the moron in the NW corner, row 26, who called the player of the year *****, Forrs ***** - demanded Jones replace him, then called Jones ***** and then said all of them are ***** before then leaving on 80 minutes?

Don't come back.
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No. WSL about halfway between halfway & the south goalline.
 
newusername said:
He said post match last night that you learn more from the setbacks than your successes.
Every time we had a crucial game, we came up short.

What has he learnt from that and will improve next season?
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Apart from those many crucial games we didn't come up short, of course.
Or all the wins we managed after those defeats, of course.

You've just provided a list of every defeat under Carrick and put your own clownish spin on why each is a big game failure.
 
Teesste said:
We also bottled big games against the following teams who were in and around the play offs at the time of the match:

Norwich (a & h)
Blackburn (a)
Watford (h)
Swansea (a)
Preston (h)





Oh hang on that’s not right.
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Not forgetting Sheff U away
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
I don't think just putting a list of defeats proves your point at all does it?
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It doesn’t but robins tactically out witted Carrick over the two games I think which is a concern as it has happened a few times now but Carrick is perfect for us and I think we are perfect for him
A full season together will give us a lot more data to judge his progression
 
newusername said:
He said post match last night that you learn more from the setbacks than your successes.
Every time we had a crucial game, we came up short.

What has he learnt from that and will improve next season?
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What is your over-arching point? Sack him and bring in someone “with more bottle”? Next season is our 7th consecutive season in the Championship, it’s not like this was a wasted opportunity to go up. We moved up the table nearly 20 places and in the end didn’t have quite enough for the PL (like 21 other teams in the division).
 
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Ex Footy Legs said:
It doesn’t but robins tactically out witted Carrick over the two games I think which is a concern as it has happened a few times now but Carrick is perfect for us and I think we are perfect for him
A full season together will give us a lot more data to judge his progression
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Some fans seem to forget that he is still a comparatively new manager, learning his trade.

This is a plus if anything, if he can do this with Boro (whereas more experienced managers have failed and sometimes abysmally) after just a handful of games as a caretaker under his belt elsewhere, imagine what he'll be like in a year or more's time?
 
Well at least 20 other managers in the Championship have bottled it as well then. Maybe there’s different degrees of bottling ?
 
Mr Sheppey said:
Well at least 20 other managers in the Championship have bottled it as well then. Maybe there’s different degrees of bottling ?
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Such fine tight tight margins.. for me it was the final 20 minutes of the game last night.

I would have had Bola on before Barlaser and Crooks on much sooner!
 
Carrick is certainly NOT a bottler, he's a very, very decorated seasoned winner. He's a bright, intelligent guy who is on a learning journey as a young manager in the game. Thus far, his record as manager of Boro is fantastic and he's wise enough to be able to learn on the job.

Last night was disappointing but for my money, instead of starting ridiculous attention seeking threads, we should be proud of what he has achieved this season and should back him 100% in his journey as manager of the Boro. I have no doubt whatsoever he will go on to become a top class manager so instead of slating him, putting your sensible head on.

You're hurt, we all get it and we all feel it. But knee jerk threads like this just look silly.
 
To be honest we did crumble end of the season abit like Sheffield Wednesday did. Mainly due to injuries though Ramsey was a massive miss our season fell apart after he celebrated in front the Norwich City fans that made the Norwich players angry and injure him
 
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