Do you class yourself as an animal lover ?

Expat Smoggie said:
I’m an animal lover but with a different sort of attitude and that is all animals should be kept in the wild.

I don’t know if it’s sheer boredom but we humans have destroyed the animal kingdom not only by farming but also by domesticating animals for our own selfish use.

I now see animals like pigs, snakes and monkey and spiders just to name a few which are now considered pets which I find so ridiculous. The most ridiculous pet is the tropical fish which are kept in tiny little cases which become part of the furniture. I’d even go as far as to say many dogs and cats are purchased just to be part of the furniture.

If you love animals return them to the wild where they can live in their natural habitat, not in some cage or glass house where you can periodically say something to them.
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It's a grey line though.
I agree about the spiders and snakes and birds and pigs. But we have two Terrier cross dogs. I'm so lucky to have some land that I've dog proofed. They come and go as they please get walked every day and are very much part of the family.
Would they be alive if they weren't pets? No. Would they have a better life if they were in the wild having to fend for themselves? Hmmmm, doubt it.
 
zzzzz said:
Would they be alive if they weren't pets? No. Would they have a better life if they were in the wild having to fend for themselves? Hmmmm, doubt it.
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In the wild they would be with their family, being nurtured by parents until old enough to fend, then raise their own puppies as opposed to most puppies that are cruelly taken from the parents and just taken to a place with humans. I'm sure you love your dogs but it's wrong to just assume they are happier with you because they have walks etc.
 
I haven't read the thread but anyone who doesn't love animals has something wrong with them. Animals are way better than humans. Even wasps. Wasps get a lot of crap thrown at them on this site, but I think that wasps are a great bunch of lads. One of them stung me on the bendy bit of my thumb last year. I don't blame it for doing that. It was resting on a door handle, and I didn't see it and went to open the door. It thought that it was under attack so it defended itself. Nothing wrong with that.

Edit - I think that it was my little finger, not my thumb. My memory is crap these days.
 
bumface said:
I haven't read the thread but anyone who doesn't love animals has something wrong with them. Animals are way better than humans. Even wasps. Wasps get a lot of crap thrown at them on this site, but I think that wasps are a great bunch of lads. One of them stung me on the bendy bit of my thumb last year. I don't blame it for doing that. It was resting on a door handle, and I didn't see it and went to open the door. It thought that it was under attack so it defended itself. Nothing wrong with that.

Edit - I think that it was my little finger, not my thumb. My memory is crap these days.
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Digging the garden with a fork not knowing it was there I put the fork in a wasps nest. Before I could react I was stung 6 times on the lead arm and chased back into the house. Those wasps got 'a lot of crap thrown at them'. A pint of petrol and a match.
 
zzzzz said:
Digging the garden with a fork not knowing it was there I put the fork in a wasps nest. Before I could react I was stung 6 times on the lead arm and chased back into the house. Those wasps got 'a lot of crap thrown at them'. A pint of petrol and a match.
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Are you proud of that? Does it make you feel hard that you killed a load of wasps?
 
zzzzz said:
I felt a whole lot better. And my grandkids that play in the garden won't get stung which is the most important thing.
'Feel hard' :ROFLMAO:
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Live and let live for me. Those wasps didn't know that it was your garden. They were just defending what they thought was their territory.
 
Look at it this way, I love football, and my favourite footballing animal is the Boro. I hate Sunderland though and would gladly eat a mackem. Are you with me?
 
I had a wasps nest fall through the ceiling in the middle of the night in rented accomodation once. That was a memorable experience. Me and the girlfriend, both naked, waking up in the dark in a room full of angry wasps. Our mad landlord used the whole, can of air freshener/ lighter/ flame thrower approach to try to sort it out. I didn't approve of that and it didn't work anyway. No idea how he didn't get stung. This was the same landlord who accidentally set fire to his garden and had me waking up one morning with a wall of flames outside my bedroom window. We slept in the spare room in his house on the night that the wasps nest thing happened and then the council came around the next day to deal with the wasps.
 
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Brian Marwood said:
In the wild they would be with their family, being nurtured by parents until old enough to fend, then raise their own puppies as opposed to most puppies that are cruelly taken from the parents and just taken to a place with humans. I'm sure you love your dogs but it's wrong to just assume they are happier with you because they have walks etc.
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Of course, the bulk of the litter would never live long enough to raise their own puppies. Only the strongest/luckiest would survive. The rest would be able to enjoy a natural death, usually of starvation brought on by disease or injury, but some (the lucky ones?) eaten alive by predators. None of these nasty vet visits for wild animals.
 
HarryVegas said:
I wouldn't say I'm an animal lover, but it felt wrong to me that animals should die just so I could eat them, especially when I don't need animal flesh in my diet to stay alive. Which is why I stopped eating them years ago.

Mind, I still consume dairy, so am in no position to preach to others. The dairy industry is inherently cruel.
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Basically the same thoughts as me. I don’t really miss meat, but I never tell anyone else not to eat it.
 
dsr-burnley said:
Question - if you had rats in the house, would you lock food away in plastic containers so they had to find their own, or would you share what you had?
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You don't understand mate. I'm organising a global all species revolution with my mate from Nevada. We've been working on it for years. I already have the rats signed up to it and if I tell them to stay out of the house then that's what they'll do.
 
1finny said:
Something has shifted in the last few years.

Now, during a discussion on this topic you will find someone (normally male) who will talk with great pride about their carnivorous eating habits.
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Is it new? I’ve had mates who do it for years. They talk about eating meat like it’s a real achievement continuing to enjoy eating meat.

I’m not criticising anyone for eating or enjoying meat but it’s a weird thing to be boastful of, in my opinion.
 
dsr-burnley said:
Of course, the bulk of the litter would never live long enough to raise their own puppies. Only the strongest/luckiest would survive. The rest would be able to enjoy a natural death, usually of starvation brought on by disease or injury, but some (the lucky ones?) eaten alive by predators. None of these nasty vet visits for wild animals.
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That’s kinda how nature works. You should build an ark.
 
I know there are many reasons I should at least go vegetarian. I love animals, I like to at least play my part in protecting the environment... I love eating meat. I'm definitely a hypocrite. I don't have a real defence ☹️.
 
PROCESSIONARY CATERPILLARS.

You may have come across them on holiday in Spain, France or elsewhere.
They are in the SE of the UK now. Nasty things..dogs can die, and young children get seriously ill.
If you see them nose to tail in procession keep away…and especially with dogs and children.
Better still get some petrol pour it over the whole line and light ‘em up.

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PINE PROCESSIONARY CATERPILLARS AND DOGS (also cats). What the dangers are and how to deal with them.

The pine processionary is a dangerous caterpillar for cats and dogs. Which are the dangers and how to behave. What to do if my dog get in contact with a processionary.
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Bernie's view said:
I am an animal lover, 3 pet dogs 3 pet cats ( plus a couple of feral visitors) and 2 pet cows. I also have 250 other cattle and 200 sheep.
I take pride in giving the non domestic animals as much care and attention as they need whether their life span is 15 years or 5 months.
In my youth I struggled to align eating meat with keeping livestock. Now I take satisfaction in knowing that the meat I eat from my own cattle has come from an animal that has had the best life I could give it.
I don’t see that as being hypocritical.
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I just don’t know how you can say they’ve been ‘given’ their best life possible if it’s for only 5 months approx
What. ?
You mean they get 5 short ‘nice’ months then slaughtered so YOU can have ‘your’ best life more like….?
Was this actually a joke post ?

All the while…you contribute to an unsustainable position of using valuable land resources that creates yet more unnecessary methane and prevent that land being used for growing crops we’ll need in the future to reduce imports from far away countries using diesel fuel to get the food here
 
Ex Footy Legs said:
I just don’t know how you can say they’ve been ‘given’ their best life possible if it’s for only 5 months approx
What. ?
You mean they get 5 short ‘nice’ months then slaughtered so YOU can have ‘your’ best life more like….?
Was this actually a joke post ?

All the while…you contribute to an unsustainable position of using valuable land resources that creates yet more unnecessary methane and prevent that land being used for growing crops we’ll need in the future to reduce imports from far away countries using diesel fuel to get the food here
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Crazy fool
 
1finny said:
Something has shifted in the last few years.

Now, during a discussion on this topic you will find someone (normally male) who will talk with great pride about their carnivorous eating habits.
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And some veggies/ vegans think they deserve a medal for what they are. Each to their own.
 
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