End of the BBC

Cuthbert said:
As a member of admin, you ought to be able to discuss/debate without chucking insults.

Are you suggesting that it's unreasonable or selfish for people to not wish to pay for a television service that they don't use?

As someone else mentioned, you have to have to pay the license fee just to 'legally' watch other channels (live) that you subscribe to.
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We all pay for quite a lot of things that we don't use, it's all part of being in a civilised society.
 
DrummerMan said:
NHS yes BBC no
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Couldn't we combine those two institutions in some way? I'd rather listen to NHS patients telling it how it really is rather than have to listen to the BBC news muppets licking the Tories behinds every day. Casualty is sh*t though. So that can go.
 
I use the iPlayer loads and listen to BBC Radio 6 Music daily. The Tory attack on the BBC has to be stopped as it's a great organisation. Tories have had their eye on it for a years. They've also planted in their cronies and completely neutralised BBC reporting. It's telling that in the last two years the BBC haven't criticised the Johnson government at all.

£159 a year for online content, iPlayer, massive radio output and BBC channels is really good value I think.
 
Nero said:
I use the iPlayer loads and listen to BBC Radio 6 Music daily. The Tory attack on the BBC has to be stopped as it's a great organisation. Tories have had their eye on it for a years. They've also planted in their cronies and completely neutralised BBC reporting. It's telling that in the last two years the BBC haven't criticised the Johnson government at all.

£159 a year for online content, iPlayer, massive radio output and BBC channels is really good value I think.
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That's the point. The BBC can't criticise the government because they have the threat of more cuts and job losses hanging over them if they do. So we're paying for them to tell us a load of pro Tory bullsh*t right now.
 
bumface said:
That's the point. The BBC can't criticise the government because they have the threat of more cuts and job losses hanging over them if they do. So we're paying for them to tell us a load of pro Tory bullsh*t right now.
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Yep. It makes a mockery of so called free media reporting in Britain. It's clearly not free with a government dictating to the public broadcaster. It's even less free with so many media organisations owned and controlled by billionaires.

Never mind though, give the masses sh*te reality TV to keep them occupied.
 
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Nero said:
I use the iPlayer loads and listen to BBC Radio 6 Music daily. The Tory attack on the BBC has to be stopped as it's a great organisation. Tories have had their eye on it for a years. They've also planted in their cronies and completely neutralised BBC reporting. It's telling that in the last two years the BBC haven't criticised the Johnson government at all.

£159 a year for online content, iPlayer, massive radio output and BBC channels is really good value I think.
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I'm sure that very many people would agree with you. With that in mind, many people would happily pay £159 to subscribe. Perhaps any shortfall in people wanting to pay the £159 could be made up by being a bit more commercial with reselling content, and maybe open the door to some advertising and/or sponsorship.

I don't see it as the end of the BBC. I just think that the licence fee is an outdated model.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
43p


43p a day for public service broadcasting, giving artists and producers freedom to create things without the need to pander to 'the market'. Uncovering massive talent and giving opportunities to lesser voices. Live sport without adverts.

A madness to think the license fee is a bad idea.
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It's all relative....for some ...household bills...petrol....food and school.uniform are probably more important than discovering new talent....if I'm honest...
It's about time it was scrapped...every other network in the world produces decent TV without a licence....a subscription....yes ....but is it enforced...no....its choice.
The BBC have taken our hard earned for long enough.....times change...people need every disposable pound on occasion to get by....so I would say that in the needs triangle....the bbc have slipped to a very low rung....
Adios monthly direct debit
 
DrummerMan said:
NHS yes BBC no
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In their tracker for the 4th qtr of 2021 YouGov had the BBC as popular with 59% of the U.K. public, neutral with 25% and disliked by just 15%.

The types of Tories in govt at the moment are in that 15% and judge, as they do, everything by their own powerful feelings rather than doubting them and appreciating their own internal bias and looking at a wide range of opinion and, you know, facts. Perhaps you are doing the same?

It is why we are where we are now.
 
Lefty said:
In their tracker for the 4th qtr of 2021 YouGov had the BBC as popular with 59% of the U.K. public, neutral with 25% and disliked by just 15%.

The types of Tories in govt at the moment are in that 15% and judge, as they do, everything by their own powerful feelings rather than doubting them and appreciating their own internal bias and looking at a wide range of opinion and, you know, facts. Perhaps you are doing the same?

It is why we are where we are now.
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Supporting the Tories and been against the TV licence aren't exclusive.
 
Cuthbert said:
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I'm sure that very many people would agree with you. With that in mind, many people would happily pay £159 to subscribe. Perhaps any shortfall in people wanting to pay the £159 could be made up by being a bit more commercial with reselling content, and maybe open the door to some advertising and/or sponsorship.

I don't see it as the end of the BBC. I just think that the licence fee is an outdated model.
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Make no mistake this is about neoliberalism and the Tories will be aiming to sell off the BBC entirely.
 
Lefty said:
In their tracker for the 4th qtr of 2021 YouGov had the BBC as popular with 59% of the U.K. public, neutral with 25% and disliked by just 15%.
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Funny how you never mentioned this YouGov poll you may like from December 2021:

How should the BBC be funded?

51% - Funded from advertising in commercial breaks
23% - Funded from general taxation
16% - Funded from a subscription model
9% - Funded from television licence as at present
3% - Something else

Source: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/media/trackers/how-should-the-bbc-be-funded


Or this YouGov poll from November 2021

How fair is the BBC licence fee?

41% - Very Unfair
21% - Unfair
14% - Fair
12% - Neither
5% - Very Fair

So 62% think it's either Very Unfair or Unfair

Source: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/how-fair-is-the-bbc-liscence-fee

@Lefty go back to school
 
Randy said:
Supporting the Tories and been against the TV licence aren't exclusive.
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I agree. I didn’t say that.

I posted that I thought the Tories were making another mistake, attacking another institution that, like the NHS, is popular with the public.

Someone disagreed, saying NHS yes, BBC no, so I referred to the recent YouGov tracker poll from last quarter that shows the BBC is popular with the public to illustrate that maybe I’m more aware of general public opinion than they or the Tories are. I’m the one living in an echo chamber though, apparently.
 
DrummerMan said:
Funny how you never mentioned this YouGov poll you may like from December 2021:

How should the BBC be funded?

51% - Funded from advertising in commercial breaks
23% - Funded from general taxation
16% - Funded from a subscription model
9% - Funded from television licence as at present
3% - Something else

Source: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/media/trackers/how-should-the-bbc-be-funded


Or this YouGov poll from November 2021

How fair is the BBC licence fee?

41% - Very Unfair
21% - Unfair
14% - Fair
12% - Neither
5% - Very Fair

So 62% think it's either Very Unfair or Unfair

Source: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/how-fair-is-the-bbc-liscence-fee

@Lefty go back to school
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16% feel it should be funded by a subscription method.
 
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