End of the BBC

[jonny_greenings_sock]

We’ll see.

This sounds like one of those Tory policies like levelling up or reducing immigration to the tens of thousands or HS2 that they like to announce for the polling boost but not actually do.

We’ll see what actually happens.

 

[LaPennaBianca]

It's all relative....for some ...household bills...petrol....food and school.uniform are probably more important than discovering new talent....if I'm honest...
It's about time it was scrapped...every other network in the world produces decent TV without a licence....a subscription....yes ....but is it enforced...no....its choice.
The BBC have taken our hard earned for long enough.....times change...people need every disposable pound on occasion to get by....so I would say that in the needs triangle....the bbc have slipped to a very low rung....
Adios monthly direct debit

Did I say discovering new talent was more important? Of course not.

There are significantly greater challenges to people's household bills and the cost of living than the BBC license fee.

Increase in National Insurance this year being one. Inflation. Energy bills. All will take more than the £159 p/a. Not to mention the cost of Brexit.

Libertarianism really does give you brainworms.

 

[Randy]

I agree. I didn’t say that.

I posted that I thought the Tories were making another mistake, attacking another institution that, like the NHS, is popular with the public.

Someone disagreed, saying NHS yes, BBC no, so I referred to the recent YouGov tracker poll from last quarter that shows the BBC is popular with the public to illustrate that maybe I’m more aware of general public opinion than they or the Tories are. I’m the one living in an echo chamber though, apparently.

I know you didn't explicitly but it's a ln undercurrent running through this thread.

Anyways, did anybody know that a third of all criminal convictions that women have in this country is from TV licence evasion? Also women are 74% more likely to be charged with a TV licence evasion conviction than men.

 

[Yearbyred]

We’ll see.

This sounds like one of those Tory policies like levelling up or reducing immigration to the tens of thousands or HS2 that they like to announce for the polling boost but not actually do.

We’ll see what actually happens.

All part of “Operation Red Meat” apparently.

Unvirtue signalling seems to be a thing.

 

[jonny_greenings_sock]

All part of “Operation Red Meat” apparently.

Unvirtue signalling seems to be a thing.

Easy to talk.

Hard to do.

Bit like Brexit, really, and that went well.

 

[rkangel]

Never going to happen unfortunately, they will ALWAYS be spin - no matter what 'side' you're on

No wonder you work for a competitor and not the BBC.

 

[Ziggy]

I wonder who is more popular with even Tory voters? The BBC for 43p a day, or the noisy scouser who is not even worth 43p…All in.

 

[Subbuteo_171]

I really won't - I have an interest that it does go as I work in the News Media and the BBC is a competitor

The tea boy?

 

[bumface]

The tea boy?

Don't think that I've ever read The Tea Boy. Is it any good? Is it more balanced than the BBC?

 

[Uncle Harry]

This is a “dead cat on the table trap. It’s story put out to distract from Boris’s plight, soak up media space and rally the right.

watch this space for a fox hunting story….

what a odious toxic little cabal run that party

 

[borolad259]

The BBC has already, by and large, been privatised. When production was carved away from broadcast, it was the beginning of the end. The party of "patriotism" (it really isn't) will oversee the selling off of a valuable national asset to foreign companies .... just as they did with gas and other utilities, airlines, defence contracts etc.
Costs will go up. Choice will be restricted to those genres/channels that are populist and generate income. People on low incomes will pay more for one channel than they did for all the various BBC television and radio channels put together ... and there are a lot of them... and they will likely lose content that they have already paid for (BBC Gold anyone?).
Meanwhile the production sector sees an ever more stupid spiral into the cheap and vacuous ... something that was designed by the tories and their plants at the head of the BBC 2 decades ago. Our status as world leaders will be lost, just as our status as world leaders in design and innovation was lost 3 or 4 decades ago. Welcome to Disney BBC.

Like I said, there are some stupid and selfish posters on this thread. I'd say ill informed normally, but most are just hard of thinking.


* But @Uncle Harry is right btw.

 

[Abel Tasman]

Well said BL.

I’ve been subjected to New Zealand TV for a year now since coming over here. I have seen it quickly descend in quality ever since our national broadcaster was sold off and exposed to private commercial funding.

The quality of the programmes has sunk, the import of cheap American and Australian trash has been prevalent. We get endless episodes of the Chase and 9/10 Cats do Countdown every night. We have a commercial break every 10 minutes or so. It’s so depressing. The other channels are just as bad. A few days watching this garbage and you are desperate to watch the BBC on Iplayer with a good VPN.

Believe you me you will hate to see what will happen if you rid of one the greatest assets Britain has left - a trusted broadcaster envied around the world

 

[Nano]

The BBC has already, by and large, been privatised. When production was carved away from broadcast, it was the beginning of the end. The party of "patriotism" (it really isn't) will oversee the selling off of a valuable national asset to foreign companies .... just as they did with gas and other utilities, airlines, defence contracts etc.
Costs will go up. Choice will be restricted to those genres/channels that are populist and generate income. People on low incomes will pay more for one channel than they did for all the various BBC television and radio channels put together ... and there are a lot of them... and they will likely lose content that they have already paid for (BBC Gold anyone?).
Meanwhile the production sector sees an ever more stupid spiral into the cheap and vacuous ... something that was designed by the tories and their plants at the head of the BBC 2 decades ago. Our status as world leaders will be lost, just as our status as world leaders in design and innovation was lost 3 or 4 decades ago. Welcome to Disney BBC.

Like I said, there are some stupid and selfish posters on this thread. I'd say ill informed normally, but most are just hard of thinking.


* But @Uncle Harry is right btw.

None of this justifies it being a criminal offence to watch ITV, Channel 4 or Sky Sports without paying the BBC for the privilege.

People on low incomes might end up paying more for less but that is better than the people that have to currently choose between eating & heating. If they can choose 2 of eating, heating & BBC then they should be allowed to make that choice.

The BBC aren't the problem. The license fee system is the problem.

 

[Cardiffdaffs]

None of this justifies it being a criminal offence to watch ITV, Channel 4 or Sky Sports without paying the BBC for the privilege.

People on low incomes might end up paying more for less but that is better than the people that have to currently choose between eating & heating. If they can choose 2 of eating, heating & BBC then they should be allowed to make that choice.

The BBC aren't the problem. The license fee system is the problem.

It’s a tax as such but one I’m more than prepared to pay for a quality, commercial free media provider, one that doesn't have the agenda of its owner as it’s driving force.

 

[borolad259]

None of this justifies it being a criminal offence to watch ITV, Channel 4 or Sky Sports without paying the BBC for the privilege.

People on low incomes might end up paying more for less but that is better than the people that have to currently choose between eating & heating. If they can choose 2 of eating, heating & BBC then they should be allowed to make that choice.

The BBC aren't the problem. The license fee system is the problem.

They have the choice anyway. And they aren't just paying for content, they are paying for infrastructure. I don't believe that it should be a criminal offence but a civil one. You are picking a rice crispy out of a bowl with that argument.

 

[borolad259]

The basic principle is to pay a flat fee so that, as well as the popular stuff, we can all watch (AND LISTEN TO) content that suits our own niche needs.

 

[borolad259]

@Nano, are you the kind of wazzock who doesn't like splitting a bill equally when 20 of you go out for a meal, in case you pay over the odds?

 

[Nano]

@Nano, are you the kind of wazzock who doesn't like splitting a bill equally when 20 of you go out for a meal, in case you pay over the odds?

No. I'm the type that suggests that it isn't fair that the people that only had a starter and water because they were on a budget shouldn't have to split the bill with the people like you that orders steak and champagne because they know they can shame everyone else into splitting the bill.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

I doubt it's the end of the BBC (as per thread title). The fact that it's the end of the license fee is a good thing IMO. They'll need to find new ways of funding, which is long overdue.

From one elite to another

 

[r00fie1]

See that's the issue. Without government meddling the BBC can act in the public interest without feeling the need to "compete". The public should be given news without spin, lies and ulterior motives.

Well, the public wont get any of the latter [....."news without spin, lies and ulterior motives".....] if the BBC lasts a thousand years!