England v USA

[Bristolboro]

This was a predictable result. Southgate is too cautious and defensive and that's why he won't win a tournament. We should always play to the best of our abilities.

 

[Bristolboro]

it was obvious that his team talk was don't lose.

 

[Scrug]

This was a predictable result. Southgate is too cautious and defensive and that's why he won't win a tournament. We should always play to the best of our abilities.

No England manager since Alf Ramsay has won a tournament. Was that because they were too defensive?

 

[Jedi boro]

it was obvious that his team talk was don't lose.

McGuire as good as admitted it in his interview as well.

 

[Fat_Dragon]

it was obvious that his team talk was don't lose.

Indeed, don’t lose tonight lads then you can lose 3-0 in your final game and still qualify.

 

[Chris_Boro]

Yes, the whole of the midfield was poor. There were massive gaps. No pressing. The point is one player on his own doesnt solve all that. If we play badly it's either foden/Bellingham/grealish should play. Overly simplistic.
Everyone's on the Bellingham bandwagon, he plays *****, so everyone's on the foden bandwagon.

Bellingham was the only one in midfield trying to get on the ball and do something, Rice was anonymous.

Mount was the one that offered nothing and Foden should've replaced him, there's no "bandwagon" in thinking that, it's a simple straight swap.

Southgate brought Bellingham off to play for the draw and left Mount on to sit deeper for the Same aim. The players today were told to keep it tight, no risks and not lose, which effectively killed the attacking talent we have.

 

[Chris_Boro]

Where’s the proof otherwise? That Golden generation of yours did nothing an you booed a team that’s outperformed them off the pitch.

What on Earth are you jabbering on about?

 

[Scrug]

Bellingham was the only one in midfield trying to get on the ball and do something, Rice was anonymous.

Mount was the one that offered nothing and Foden should've replaced him, there's no "bandwagon" in thinking that, it's a simple straight swap.

Southgate brought Bellingham off to play for the draw and left Mount on to sit deeper for the Same aim. The players today were told to keep it tight, no risks and not lose, which effectively killed the attacking talent we have.

And barring an inconceivable 4 - 0 loss to Wales, you’ve qualified. What’s the problem?

 

[Zoophonic]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1596253884414140417

 

[Scrug]

What on Earth are you jabbering on about?

You claimed my post suggesting English players weren’t as good as they’re billed up to be as pathetic. So I’m asking where’s your proof that they are.

 

[Otto42]

Useful point in Gareth we trust

 

[Jedi boro]

Bellingham was the only one in midfield trying to get on the ball and do something, Rice was anonymous.

Exactly and who comes off

 

[Zoophonic]

No England manager since Alf Ramsay has won a tournament. Was that because they were too defensive?

Some of the England teams down the years it was because we were not good enough. However we had a thread on here last night suggesting few Brazilian players would get into our current squad so its probably fair to say this team is expected to be challenging and maybe win?

 

[joeydiaz]

Disappointing result but in the grand scheme of things not a disaster. Harry Maguire was immense, time to put some respect on that man’s name.

 

[Fattyfoggon]

ffs 4 points out of 6 and should still win the group get over yourselves, Southgate probably most successful England manger ever bar Ramsey man spoilt kids everywhere there are lot of good international teams out there who do we think we are sound like deluded Geordies lol

 

[Glover_elbow]

Useful point in Gareth we trust

No trust in him since that Cardiff cup match

 

[Chris_Boro]

You claimed my post suggesting English players weren’t as good as they’re billed up to be as pathetic. So I’m asking where’s your proof that they are.

If only you typed those words instead of the ones you did then it wouldn't of been pathetic.

Instead you chose pathetic.

Bellingham wasn't poor today because of a "jizzfest", he was completely outnumbered and isolated with no options around him.

 

[Scrug]

Some of the England teams down the years it was because we were not good enough. However we had a theead on here last night suggesting few Brazilian players would get into our current squad so its probably fair to say this team is expected to be challenging and maybe win?

Would you say Brazil are the favourites? Most of their players play for middling teams in Europe now. I can’t look past Spain.

That’s entirely my point. Why are this team expected to win? When nothing in the past 56 years has suggested they are?

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

Bellingham was the only one in midfield trying to get on the ball and do something, Rice was anonymous.

Mount was the one that offered nothing and Foden should've replaced him, there's no "bandwagon" in thinking that, it's a simple straight swap.

Southgate brought Bellingham off to play for the draw and left Mount on to sit deeper for the Same aim. The players today were told to keep it tight, no risks and not lose, which effectively killed the attacking talent we have.

My point is only that I don't think foden is a sticking plaster that cures all of our ills. Just as Bellingham isn't. Just as grealish isn't. Bellingham was poor today. The US at times had acres of space in midfield. Where was he? It was a poor team performance. And as I said I would have brought foden on myself.

 

[Jedi boro]

My point is only that I don't think foden is a sticking plaster that cures all of our ills. Just as Bellingham isn't. Just as grealish isn't. Bellingham was poor today. The US at times had acres of space in midfield. Where was he? It was a poor team performance. And as I said I would have brought foden on myself.

No but Bellingham grealish and foden playing together in a progressive thinking team would be.