To the best of my knowledge Hitler isn’t a living orator though, pretty sure he’s deadIn a dark way it makes me wish I could understand German. My German friends say that Hitler’s speeches are largely nonsensical and it’s often said that they can’t be translated, and don’t work in the written word. But surely no one in human history has achieved such terrible, hypnotic things through the sheer power of oratory. It would be fascinating to hear one.
Interesting that at the same time you have Churchill, an absolute giant of oratory, FDR who was great with words, but Stalin who was apparently awkward and uninspiring as a speaker.
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I agree, to be a truly great orator, you really do have to believe what you say.its one of the greatest gifts of man - its not about winning arguments, its about talking with a soul, moving you to laughter, tears, thought and self assessment.
should you have asked this question before February of this year i would have Zia Mohyeddin - an absolute master.
of the political americans that are still with us, Jesse Jackson has always been worth listening to - its no act with him, its from the school of dead hard knocks - it becomes very powerful.
gas bags like farage, kinnock, de pfeffel, etc are best ignored, politicians such as Starmer & Corbyn, Major & Truss, are just not very good at speaking to crowds.
hitler spoke codswallop and all that shoutin and arm movements is quite tedious - history says that Trotsky was a mesmerising speaker
whilst actors are just that - an Act .
the rules for public speaking are; know your stuff - know who your stuffing - and stop when they are stuffed.
Absolutely spot on. Used to go out of my way to see him speak at Glastonbury and boy can he hold an audience.Tony Benn
I have always believed that powerful discourse could influence people but now, having read your post, I must say I totally agree. No argument, no matter how well framed, has the power to change minds.Overrated - and outdated - skill in my opinion, relic of the 19th century and self congratulatory Eton debating societies.
No one changes their mind after listening to an argument anymore. Views are too entrenched and information about everything is widely available. You don’t need to artfully present it using Greek oratory. I think politics - and the world in general - would be a much better place if people just shut the **** up and got straight to the point. The House of Commons, for example, is 99% self indulgence. And this comment is already too long
Saying that, your choices are very good. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up a few times listening to Obama, he was a transcendental speaker.
Shakespeare would disagree when he wrote Julius Caesar.I have always believed that powerful discourse could influence people but now, having read your post, I must say I totally agree. No argument, no matter how well framed, has the power to change minds.