Hackney

It's pretty well known that there's strong interest in Hackney and he's most likely going to get a prem contract.

People on here thinking he's out the shop window because he's had a couple of knocks or he would rather stay in Championship for development are in cuckoo land.
 
I’ve heard the same, was also told McGree has asked for a transfer too. Lad who told me has usually been pretty reliable.
 
B_G said:
It's pretty well known that there's strong interest in Hackney and he's most likely going to get a prem contract.

People on here thinking he's out the shop window because he's had a couple of knocks or he would rather stay in Championship for development are in cuckoo land.
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He's under contract until 2027 so it wouldn't be cheap to buy him and I can't see that the clubs he'd get into the starting line up of would want to pay the amount of money we'd want for him.
So it could be better for him to stay 1 year, and he'd either get promoted with Boro or have ran his contract down enough to make us more likely to do a deal.
 
newusername said:
He's under contract until 2027 so it wouldn't be cheap to buy him and I can't see that the clubs he'd get into the starting line up of would want to pay the amount of money we'd want for him.
So it could be better for him to stay 1 year, and he'd either get promoted with Boro or have ran his contract down enough to make us more likely to do a deal.
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Why would it be better for him?
It would be better for us as supporters but don't confuse that with being better for Hackney.

People said the same thing about Rogers in January. People said the same thing about Tavernier. It's just wrong. If he's good enough he'll break into the first team and if he's not he'll end up like O'Brien with an inflated contract while he plays championship football but at least he'll have tried. If he signs a 5 year contract with a prem club, that contract alone will probably be worth more than 12 years of championship football. That's just how it is.

He gave us an extra season last year. There was interest there then. But you get circa 12 seasons as a professional, you've got to make the most of them.
 
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B_G said:
It's pretty well known that there's strong interest in Hackney and he's most likely going to get a prem contract.
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Any young player performing well in the Championship is going to be monitored by PL clubs, it does not mean that there will be an irresistible offer. There is a world of difference between an offer from a top 10 club to an offer from a newly promoted club. Clubs may test our resolve I think that's likely and there are offers that we cannot possibly turn down if Hackney wants to go. It's where we are. To say "he's off" is simplistic and most likely just made up nonsense at this stage.

sigh

It's going to be a long summer...
 
It would only really make sense for us to sell at 30 Mill or so and I can't see someone paying that.

The cost of replacing him would cancel out the 12 Mill or so that a prem club would see as worth a punt.

I think he will stay another season and then hopefully we get promoted and he stays with us in the prem.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
It would only really make sense for us to sell at 30 Mill or so and I can't see someone paying that.

The cost of replacing him would cancel out the 12 Mill or so that a prem club would see as worth a punt.

I think he will stay another season and then hopefully we get promoted and he stays with us in the prem.
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That's not how it works though. He's not worth 30 million. Everyone knows that.
You can't stand in a players way just because they are under contract. They aren't slaves.

If an offer comes in and meets our true valuation (not the fmttm valuation) then it would be daft to stand in his way. That's why we are getting good young talent through the door. If we stop letting them move on when opportunities arise then we'll stop getting those players.

We are a stepping stone club and we sell when good offers come in. That's how it is.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
Wharton went to Palace and hasn't looked out of place. I would imagine that we'll be looking for something similar.
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I think we'll do well to get that same fee but same ball park. £17-20m.
£20m top end.

Obviously with add ons like these sort of sales always include.
 
B_G said:
That's not how it works though. He's not worth 30 million. Everyone knows that.
You can't stand in a players way just because they are under contract. They aren't slaves.

If an offer comes in and meets our true valuation (not the fmttm valuation) then it would be daft to stand in his way. That's why we are getting good young talent through the door. If we stop letting them move on when opportunities arise then we'll stop getting those players.

We are a stepping stone club and we sell when good offers come in. That's how it is.
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I think 30 mill will be about our valuation. Alex scott moved for 25 mill and Hackney is better.

We had to give Rogers away cheaply in the end as he was agitating for the move but I don't think Hackney will.
 
B_G said:
If an offer comes in and meets our true valuation (not the fmttm valuation) then it would be daft to stand in his way. That's why we are getting good young talent through the door. If we stop letting them move on when opportunities arise then we'll stop getting those players.
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Based on what? When does this happen?

You can treat the valuation of people on here as fanciful, and you might be right, but it strikes me as equally fantasist to be like "Oh, we can't stand in a players way, that's not on, and then other young players will stop coming to us too!". Since when is that a thing that happens. Clubs hold firm on players all the time. When do they get subsequently affected and suddenly become unable to sign players?

Either we're a club who want to go up or we aren't. You can't do that and also be a club putting up flyers in the window saying "Come join us! We promise we'll let you go at the first opportunity!"
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
I think 30 mill will be about our valuation. Alex scott moved for 25 mill and Hackney is better.

We had to give Rogers away cheaply in the end as he was agitating for the move but I don't think Hackney will.
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Scott was 2 years younger than Hackney with as much championship experience already. I can see why he was worth more. He's a year down from Hackney and already playing regular prem football.

But Scott is another example of why Hackney would want the move. I'm sure he would agree to with you that he's at a higher level than Scott right now and he's broken into the first team.
 
Jonathan said:
Based on what? When does this happen?
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Erm about 4 months ago with Morgan Rogers

Jonathan said:
You can treat the valuation of people on here as fanciful, and you might be right, but it strikes me as equally fantasist to be like "Oh, we can't stand in a players way, that's not on, and then other young players will stop coming to us too!". Since when is that a thing that happens. Clubs hold firm on players all the time. When do they get subsequently affected and suddenly become unable to sign players?
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It's what I and everyone has seen from the club over the last 3 or 4 seasons and also from what I hear from people around the set up.

Agents are very aware of which clubs are willing to let players move on and which aren't....

Jonathan said:
Either we're a club who want to go up or we aren't. You can't do that and also be a club putting up flyers in the window saying "Come join us! We promise we'll let you go at the first opportunity!"
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I really wish we were a club who was keeping our top players but we aren't any more
 
Hackney's at my house playing with my old Big Trak. He bloody loves that toy. I asked him about this 'ITK rumour' and he told me he's happy where he is and that he's going nowhere. He wants to play with the Etch A Sketch now and after that it'll be time for his nap. His mam is picking him up at half nine.
 
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BoroMart said:
It’s often right too, we said it was a mistake for Giles to go to Luton, archer to go to Sheff United, Ramsey to go to Burnley and Akpom to go to Ajax…and all have had a torrid time, ditto Spence too, although most of were happy for that to be a disaster for him
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I bet they all cry themselves to sleep for the next 5 years on their £30-50k / week contracts wishing they'd came to boro on £15k.

Giles not good enough. He's done well to get the contract he has.

Ramsey has had another injury ridden season

God knows what's going on with Akpom because he seems to be performing so showing he's good enough.

But at the end of the day they are all on at least double the money they would be at Boro
 
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