Hackney
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Jonathan
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Canyoudigit
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But as stated above and I think you agree, these players are being offered top salaries to test themselves at the highest level, if it doesn't work out they remain on the salary but get loaned out to a championship team playing every week but getting higher wages.
I don't begrudge any player getting an opportunity to test themselves at a higher level, I wish them all the best as long as they go about there business in the right way, which all of the above did, can't knock chuba joining Ajax but it hasn't worked out, same for Giles, Archer and Ramsey although Ramsey has more concerning problems for me his Injury record is really poor for a young player TBH.
But Hackney will back himself to make it. The same as Rogers, Tav, Giles, Akpom and Ramsey did.
Some will make it. Some won't. But he certainly won't if he doesn’t try. He'll be 22 when the season kicks off next season. He's not a baby.
Given he's cemented his place in the U21s, I'm sure he's thinking about full England caps. Especially with the CM position being a position where the door is open. He's got no chance playing for us in the Championship.
Middlesbrough123
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I’d hope the club and manager would dish their heals kn this one if any offers come in .
Id doubt he’d kick up much of a fuss to stay for one season jn the championship thatl be one less player we’d need when back in the prem in a yrs time
Id doubt he’d kick up much of a fuss to stay for one season jn the championship thatl be one less player we’d need when back in the prem in a yrs time
Merlin
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I think the club would be wiser to sell McGree and possibly one or two of the fringe players rather than Hackney - that would still bring in good money, albeit not as much as selling Hayden would, but we should be building the side around players like Hackney, Dieng, and Lath, not selling them.
r00fie1
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I'm sure if any of the lads under contract leave Boro, the club will demand the highest figure and not give them away.
Just a comment: we sold Morgan Rogers for a reportedly big profit, compared to what we paid, and "Big Tree" left around the same time, but we've got better as a team and more consistent since.
Maybe, selling a few players for lucrative deals and buying wisely is the model to take us forward after all?
Really optimistic for next season
Just a comment: we sold Morgan Rogers for a reportedly big profit, compared to what we paid, and "Big Tree" left around the same time, but we've got better as a team and more consistent since.
Maybe, selling a few players for lucrative deals and buying wisely is the model to take us forward after all?
Really optimistic for next season
sambaDTR
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It seems that since Aaron Danks took over as first team coach we have seen some great young lads come in from the midlands. The likes of Archer, Azaz, Rogers and now Gilbert, who is showing how good he can be. If Hackney does go and we bring in Archer (who would torture Championship defenders again), Iroegbunam (a proper Boateng defensive midfielder which we don’t have) and a Kesler-Hayden a right back, then it could be a good deal. Can’t see it though. Archer will not want to drop into the Championship and Iroegbunam is in the Villa first team (replaced Douglas Luiz on Saturday).
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SilentProf
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Archer will be on about £60k. There’s no chance of him coming here next season.
Beverleyred
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Archer, Fletcher, Arrowsmith, Bowman, Robin Hood… have I missed any out?
Why? I'm sure Rav does back himself. Not heard about any firm interest in Rav.
Also worth noting Rav is well behind the others in his career. With another solid season in the PL, I think he'd also look to move if PL interest was there. He's where Hackney was last season albeit 2 years younger.
r00fie1
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Archer is history. Good whilst it lasted, but we could neither afford the fee nor his wages. It would also cause a rumble in the dressing room: we have to have a "wage ceiling", otherwise we are heading for the Saville, Fletcher, Assombalonga, Gestede, scenario - paying out huge sums for average players who are prepared to sit it out on fat salaries. We've done better without them. This coming season, we already have excellent prospects for players already here and aren't dependent on loanees in the same way as last year. I doubt we would miss Greenwood or O`Brien, for instance. Perhaps a ? Question mark over O`Brien? We have a stronger core this year than last, and we have players we can offload, freeing up salary expenditure, without affecting the squad. I'm thinking particularly of Coulson, Djiksteel, Fry, Hoppe, Silvera and McNair.
Much depends, of course, on who we bring in, but there’s four out of the last five who wouldn't be missed. We might get a reasonable Championship offer for Dael Fry, but we've got on without him for the majority of this season, which maybe proves a point. With Smith and Leniham coming back and Clarke proving his capabilities, there is obviously a need for a right back and cover for other positions, but we have room to manoeuvre this pre-season.
Much depends, of course, on who we bring in, but there’s four out of the last five who wouldn't be missed. We might get a reasonable Championship offer for Dael Fry, but we've got on without him for the majority of this season, which maybe proves a point. With Smith and Leniham coming back and Clarke proving his capabilities, there is obviously a need for a right back and cover for other positions, but we have room to manoeuvre this pre-season.
So you are talking about an 18 year old Rav? Totally different point in his career. I'm sure he'll know he wasn't going to a PL team at 18 and playing games so yes I would say Rav was realistic at that point in his career.
20 year old Rav with 50+ Championship appearances will be a different story.
festa5
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Pretty sure Scott spoke about Hackney when he was the radio not too long ago and said something along the lines of that he's happy to stay but of course all players have a price.
And things might have changed since then of course.
At the end of the day rumours are very easy to start and there's too many sad little men happy to make them up to try and appear "ITK". A lot of players will be wanted by bigger clubs. Easy to say I've heard xxxx is definitely going, because there's a fair chance there'll be interest anyway.
It's funny how all these ITK people missed quite a few of our summer signings, had no clue that Jones was out of the team last year due to personal problems and were confidently claiming inside knowledge that Clarke would never play football again.
Unless they come from a reliable source, such as a proper journalist, chances are most rumours are just made up bollox being spread around social media.
And things might have changed since then of course.
At the end of the day rumours are very easy to start and there's too many sad little men happy to make them up to try and appear "ITK". A lot of players will be wanted by bigger clubs. Easy to say I've heard xxxx is definitely going, because there's a fair chance there'll be interest anyway.
It's funny how all these ITK people missed quite a few of our summer signings, had no clue that Jones was out of the team last year due to personal problems and were confidently claiming inside knowledge that Clarke would never play football again.
Unless they come from a reliable source, such as a proper journalist, chances are most rumours are just made up bollox being spread around social media.