Im not a Police hater by any means, but.....

[Laughing]

Jonny if the police officer wants the cooperation of the public he needs to learn to police better I would suggest. Cooperation stems from respect, the police have to earn that respect and they do that by giving respect in their dealings with the public.

ZZZZ saying he was brought up to respect authority, well maybe you were, but that has to be a 2 way street.

The officer behaved like a d*ck and failed in the basic principles of policing.

 

[American_Mary]

At present what should be a collective responsibility of government, prosecution and judiciary, policing and public is so disjointed and suspicious of each other that we are going to get more and more situations like this, the government are tasking the police with an impossible task by asking them to do something that without any real powers is farcical. We certainly need to look at how we police, the personalities of those that chose to become officers and how in an age of distrust we rebuild trust, a more cerebral and softer approach to dealing with the public would resolve a lot of issues and in the situation in the OP one wonders why the female officer didn't take control of the situation and try and intervene before it escalated as it did.

 

[tripleheader]

I agree A.M ,there is something really wrong with the current approach to policing. The reaction by the police in some of these 'confrontational' video's is really shocking. They don't appear to know the law, and have a one directional approach to policing. Ie 'I'm right , your wrong' in many cases and don't have suitable responses when challenged.
I do feel the basic tools have been removed from the police to allow them to function, and as most if not all have video facilities on them then that in some way would help to protect the public.
It's clear that things do need to change.

 

[ChrisTheRed]

Jonny if the police officer wants the cooperation of the public he needs to learn to police better I would suggest. Cooperation stems from respect, the police have to earn that respect and they do that by giving respect in their dealings with the public.

ZZZZ saying he was brought up to respect authority, well maybe you were, but that has to be a 2 way street.

The officer behaved like a d*ck and failed in the basic principles of policing.

Sadly it isn't true. The people the police encounter don't care in the main and are just there to try and stamp their own authority and show that they are above the law all to get a laugh from their mates.

If you haven't done the job you would never really understand it but the public at large can be obnoxious and generally unhelpful with the big I am attitude.

 

[Laughing]

Sadly it isn't true. The people the police encounter don't care in the main and are just there to try and stamp their own authority and show that they are above the law all to get a laugh from their mates.

If you haven't done the job you would never really understand it but the public at large can be obnoxious and generally unhelpful with the big I am attitude.

That is a terrible reason. In the example we are talking about no such thing happened.

 

[ChrisTheRed]

That is a terrible reason. In the example we are talking about no such thing happened.

I haven't seen the footage (unless you're talking about the push) but the footage that gets posted is often cleverly edited to show part of the incident where the police finally get sick. It happens all too often and people have YouTube channels dedicated to it.

 

[Laughing]

I haven't seen the footage (unless you're talking about the push) but the footage that gets posted is often cleverly edited to show part of the incident where the police finally get sick. It happens all too often and people have YouTube channels dedicated to it.

Yeah the footage wasn't edited and the lad did nothing wrong. I don't doubt officers get a rough deal sometimes, that wasn't the case here, The officer handled the situation badly and he escalated it not the victim.

 

[Jonny Ingbar]

Jonny if the police officer wants the cooperation of the public he needs to learn to police better I would suggest. Cooperation stems from respect, the police have to earn that respect and they do that by giving respect in their dealings with the public.

ZZZZ saying he was brought up to respect authority, well maybe you were, but that has to be a 2 way street.

The officer behaved like a d*ck and failed in the basic principles of policing.

Couldn't agree more, behaviour breeds behaviour and I was talking generally, rather than this example specifically. I havent actually watched it, but I've read enough comments about ot to know it will be cringeworthy.

 

[tripleheader]

I haven't seen the footage (unless you're talking about the push) but the footage that gets posted is often cleverly edited to show part of the incident where the police finally get sick. It happens all too often and people have YouTube channels dedicated to it.

I must admit that thought did cross my mind. It did appear that there had been something else said before hand. But both to me were not behaving reasonably.

 

[John67]

Blair Peach, Ian Tomlinson, de Menezes. The list goes on of people killed by Police Officers. Not one of the killers jailed, some not even sanctioned . There are many other cases such as these. Never mind corruption allegations where senior officers resign and get their pensions and the allegations disappear. Police investigating Police clearly doesn’t work. just on a personal note, an elderly friend in her mid 70’s was arrested in her home after a loud argument with her granddaughter. Never been in trouble and was totally in shock. Kept in a freezing cold cell overnight and charged with attempted biting of an officer. Had to go to court and video evidence was submitted from one of the officer body cams, video heavily edited and no evidence of attempt to bite and strangely the other officers body cam, that was from the side and would have proved the case either way was missing. Magistrate was furious and case dropped. How much worry and money did that cost us the taxpayer.

 

[John67]

Sadly it isn't true. The people the police encounter don't care in the main and are just there to try and stamp their own authority and show that they are above the law all to get a laugh from their mates.

If you haven't done the job you would never really understand it but the public at large can be obnoxious and generally unhelpful with the big I am attitude.

Exchange people/public and police a couple of times in those sentences and I reckon it would sum up many people’s experience with the rozzers.