India lands probe at South pole of the moon

The Ruthsayer said:
Between 2106 and 2021 UK gave £2.3bn in aid to India. Glad it has been well spent.
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I just read that - However, they did say that they didn't need it.

"LONDON: UK aid to India was meant to have stopped in 2015 after India said it did not want it, but a review by the UK aid spending watchdog has found that around £2.3 billion (Rs 23,000 crore) in UK aid went to India between 2016 and 2021."
 
BoroPhil said:
I'm sure you could say the same about us or basically any country
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Not really as few can match the poverty levels of India especially the street kids.

Uk and us may have issues but not many live on rubbish sites or smash rock with their bare hands to earn enough to eat.


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Children working in India's coal mines came as 'complete shock', filmmaker says

When Chandrasekhar Reddy traveled to northeastern India in 2011, the director was looking for material for a film on forests in the region famed for its misty hills and waterfalls.
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Wiseman_Vaughn said:
I just read that - However, they did say that they didn't need it.

"LONDON: UK aid to India was meant to have stopped in 2015 after India said it did not want it, but a review by the UK aid spending watchdog has found that around £2.3 billion (Rs 23,000 crore) in UK aid went to India between 2016 and 2021."
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Now I wonder whose pockets that found its way to?
 
Investment in science and technology has massive impacts on a society

India supplies massive amounts of highly educated contractors to the world, they are excellent engineers and scientists.

It's the same argument as spending on the arts when you have homeless people in the UK. Different lots of money and different impacts.
 
Jedi boro said:
Not really as few can match the poverty levels of India especially the street kids.

Uk and us may have issues but not many live on rubbish sites or smash rock with their bare hands to earn enough to eat.
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India's population is 1.4 billion, uk is like 67 million

Part of the reason the uk has such riches is because we spent ages impoverishing places like india
 
The argument that developing economies like India must focus on poverty reduction rather than space programs involves a set of problematic assumptions; hence, the assumptions that India:

  • Is not focused on eradicating poverty
  • Research and scientific initiatives by the country's space agency do not impact poverty
  • The diversion of public money from welfare to space research significantly impacts the country's budget
The 2019-2020 annual budget of the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) is $1.8 billion compared to the Indian gross domestic product (GDP) of $2.972 trillion at current prices. The proportion of the budget allotted to the space program is a minuscule proportion; therefore, it does not serve as a significant barrier to eradicating poverty.

The goals of the ISRO have always been significantly different from those of the United States and the former Soviet Union, which were focused on space exploration during the Space Race of the 20th century. India was always focused on developing satellite capabilities in order to map and survey the area under yield and to minimize the effects of natural disasters and erosion with relevant forecasts.

The ISRO is committed to building application-based technology. It has successfully provided the nation with a number of useful innovations and infrastructure to support various programs, which directly and indirectly contribute to alleviating poverty.

The Indian space community is technocratic in nature; therefore, it is not bound by presidential or parliamentary orders to invest in projects that promote the national image while negatively impacting the economy. One of the major advantages that the Indian space program enjoys is the fact that it does not compete with developed nations when it comes to the exploration of space but is strongly committed to building technologies in order to focus on the real problems of society, particularly, the Indian agrarian community.

The satellite communication network built by the ISRO has had significant applications in land and water resources management, natural disaster and weather forecasting, computer communication, meteorological imagining and radio networking. The technology built by the ISRO aids farmers and increases crop yields. For example, the remote sensing data provided by the ISRO helps in the detection of natural resources. The satellites are used by India academia for scholarly applications.

Telemedicine is another technology developed by the ISRO that connects patients in rural areas to medical professionals in urban areas through satellites, directly benefitting the poor community in the most backward of regions.

ISRO's cost-effective space technology has transformed it into a vendor for other small, developed countries interested in space exploration. For example, the ISRO launched 104 satellites into orbit in 2017, including those from the United States and one each from Israel, Kazakhstan, Switzerland, the Netherlands and the United Arab Emirates.

If we are to consider the fact that the eradication of poverty is not achieved through philanthropy and the redistribution of money but through disaster management, a public policy focused on uplifting backward economic sectors, such as agriculture, job creation and the establishment of an efficient and corruption-free infrastructure, the ISRO has played a major role in eradicating poverty in India.
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Jedi boro said:
We left in 1947
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Unemployment, famine, poor sanitary conditions, lack of access to education and healthcare, caste-based oppression, religious violence and gender-based violence are all a part of the legacy of colonialism. In 40 years, between 1880 and 1920, British colonialism killed 100 million Indians and, according to research by economic historian, Robert Allen, extreme poverty in India increased under British rule, from 23% in 1810 to more than 50% in the mid-20th century. Allen and other scholars argue that prior to colonialism, Indian living standards may have been “on a par with the developing parts of Western Europe” (Sullivan, 2022). British colonial policies facilitated the exploitation of India’s wealth and resources, which resulted in widening socioeconomic disparities. The economic inequality in India today can be traced back to the colonial period, “affecting access to basic services, education, and healthcare, and impeding the realization of economic and social rights” (Oxfam, 2022). Gaps have widened between the propertied and the property-less, with British India’s institutional and commercial policy making the rich Indians richer and the poor poorer, something that has persisted to this day.

This is especially true for India’s rural poor, whose human rights are increasingly vulnerable. The introduction of the Zamindari system, where “peasants were often forced to pay exorbitant rents and taxes to zamindars” (Balaji, 2023), often led to oppressive practises and increased poverty among peasants, with an emphasis on cash crops and commercial agriculture causing populations today to be susceptible to rural shocks as well as exacerbating contemporary cycles of poverty and debt. Deindustrialisation and an emphasis on British manufactured goods contributed to this unemployment and poverty. India’s rural poor “are vulnerable…marginalized, voiceless, and victim of multiple social circumstances” (Bhadra, 2021). Today, the top 10% of the Indian population holds 77% of the total national wealth, making it one of the most unequal countries in the world, with economic inequality adding to a society that is “already fractured along the lines of caste, religion, region and gender” (Himanshu, 2018). This increases laborers’ risk of falling victims to poverty traps, stifling their basic human right to liveable wages, safe working conditions, and basic services. However, research by economic historian, Roy, found inconclusive evidence for this claim, stating that the fortunes of the propertied class actually fell (Kwatra, 2018). Nevertheless, one cannot deny that colonial societies entailed huge inequalities in political agency, as well as in social and economic opportunities, if only along the racial divide between European and autochthonous populations.
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billsykes said:
Apparently it's well done India for their brilliant scientific achievement and shame on you Britain for causing their poverty.
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Did you read the above? India's space program creates masses of jobs and investment that helps with poverty but I guess we just ignore that part and go all GB News.

If India spent that money on poverty it would have been swallowed up with no ongoing benefits
 
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