ITV confirmation Number Ten partied whilst the rest of us locked down.

Michael_Vronsky said:
You know Viv, I was trying to have a conversation with a rabid Tory today and listed everything, like you have above. He looked at me, shook his head, shrugged it all off and said 'Better than having Corbyn and Dianne Abbott'. I walked away.
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I have that with my other half’s cousins and their husbands from time to time. It’s sort of unfathomable really. I have no idea how people can be so blasé, indifferent, even positive towards, the way this government behaves and the things the people in it have done. You always get the “well, it’d be worse under Labour” nonsense. No interest in taking responsibility or actual discussion or anything at all TBH. Just follow the script and regurgitate whatever it is they’ve read or heard that day. It’s infuriating.
 
FatCat said:
All I’m saying is it’s hypocritical to get so offended by this if you were in the half of the country who was doing the same thing ignoring the rules and there are many of these people about ( I wasn’t disregarding the rules))
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Half of the country? I mean congratulations your whataboutery and deflection from the Tories hosting an illegal party has succeeded but where do you get you “half of the country” figure? I think you’re lying. I know, as someone who proudly defends the Tories, lying isn’t a “thing” to you but to us humans it is
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
I have that with my other half’s cousins and their husbands from time to time. It’s sort of unfathomable really. I have no idea how people can be so blasé, indifferent, even positive towards, the way this government behaves and the things the people in it have done. You always get the “well, it’d be worse under Labour” nonsense. No interest in taking responsibility or actual discussion or anything at all TBH. Just follow the script and regurgitate whatever it is they’ve read or heard that day. It’s infuriating.
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I usually get the 'Corbyn the IRA man' too. Like Boro Mart said, pointless even trying to debate. I just have to stew quietly.
 
FatCat said:
Anyone can feel outraged by this but if they do so whilst breaking the rules then it just feels a bit hypocritical!
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So you’re accusing everyone who is outraged on here of breaking the rules? Yes I’m aware I’m falling for your blatant deflection and whataboutery but you need to be really careful what you’re accusing people of here
 
Another issue here is that it won’t just have been the one party. They will have been doing as they pleased throughout the entire pandemic. Their issue is that someone has decided the Prime Minister’s time in office is up and starting leaking things. This will go on and on until he finally resigns. They’re just a disgusting pack of disgusting b*stards.
 
SmallTown said:
So you’re accusing everyone who is outraged on here of breaking the rules? Yes I’m aware I’m falling for your blatant deflection and whataboutery but you need to be really careful what you’re accusing people of here
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Have you been drinking - another one trying to twist my words.
 
FatCat said:
Have you been drinking - another one trying to twist my words.
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Another one! As @BoroMart has already said to you: the fact we all know you are deflecting should mean something. I know, taking the lead from your idol Boris means you’ll continue to deflect and lie but maybe you should consider the fact we ALL know you’re doing it and have pulled you up on it?

instead you just want to continue deflecting. It’s weird to me, we all know you’re doing it, you know you’re doing it, yet you double down and do it more.

were you lying when you said “half the country broke the rules?” I think you were.
Also, why does that whataboutery make the illegal party at number 10 ok?

you seriously need to look at yourself and consider why you are trying to deflect from an act that directly attacks and humiliates the British public. Do you really want to be THAT person?
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Another issue here is that it won’t just have been the one party. They will have been doing as they pleased throughout the entire pandemic. Their issue is that someone has decided the Prime Minister’s time in office is up and starting leaking things. This will go on and on until he finally resigns. They’re just a disgusting pack of disgusting b*stards.
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the key accusation is that there were indeed two parties and Johnson attended the other one and not just pop in and out. This is being avoided as a topic of discussion so far
 
SmallTown said:
Another one! As @BoroMart has already said to you: the fact we all know you are deflecting should mean something. I know, taking the lead from your idol Boris means you’ll continue to deflect and lie but maybe you should consider the fact we ALL know you’re doing it and have pulled you up on it?

instead you just want to continue deflecting. It’s weird to me, we all know you’re doing it, you know you’re doing it, yet you double down and do it more.

were you lying when you said “half the country broke the rules?” I think you were.
Also, why does that whataboutery make the illegal party at number 10 ok?

you seriously need to look at yourself and consider why you are trying to deflect from an act that directly attacks and humiliates the British public. Do you really want to be THAT person?
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Yes here’s me earlier in this thread deflecting

“two wrongs don’t make a right.
The gvt from what I know and videos have seen have acted unconscionably with these parties and their ridicule- I stated taht at the outset”

using boromart as an example doesn’t add to your credibility smalltown - remember you voted Tory and that’s something that everybody knows also no matter how many times you run to admin asking them to tell people off for daring to mention it.

goodnight xxx
 
BoroMart said:
was I twisting your words or putting words into your mouth?........confused
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It’s a Tory stooge. He’ll just twist and deflect and lie so we stop talking about the illegal party his favourites held whilst people were dying of Covid
 
FatCat said:
Yes here’s me earlier in this thread deflecting

“two wrongs don’t make a right.
The gvt from what I know and videos have seen have acted unconscionably with these parties and their ridicule- I stated taht at the outset”

using boromart as an example doesn’t add to your credibility smalltown - remember you voted Tory and that’s something that everybody knows also no matter how many times you run to admin asking them to tell people off for daring to mention it.

goodnight xxx
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Ah the old personal attack! Top deflection work there catty. Shame we can all see what you’re doing.

so, we’re you lying when you said 50% of people broke the rules?
Also what motivation do you have for trying to deflect from the government hosting an illegal party?
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Haven’t read the whole thread yet but this government is an absolute pack of c*nts. People dying unnecessarily, many of them alone, while their relatives were denied the chance to have even a short moment with them. They’re f*cking evil. Look at their handling of this, the impact of austerity and the savage cuts to infrastructure, a hostile immigration policy and Brexit and Notthern Ireland and the bills they pass when we’re not looking, and the constant lying, cheating, racist, disingenuous, two-faced, hypocritical, lying, bullying, offensive, downright disgusting way they behave every single minute of the day. This government is absolute scum. Get these c*nts out of office NOW.
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Get off the fence Viv 😉
 
SmallTown said:
Will she be having a leaving do?
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haha you know what, it wouldn`t surprise me if she did and right in view of everyone, just under the maximum allowed attendance (under current guidance) to rub all our noses in it.
Of course Alexander will be there to show his face
 
SuperStu said:
I thought Starmer did quite well in PMQs earlier. Was glad Ian Blackford was asking when the PM would tender his resignation too.

Not sure why Starmers been saying there shouldn't be a criminal investigation tbh. Even if he thinks that, just keep shtum and let other people demand it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1468330919673147395
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Please can we not do this? The Tories are out of control at the moment. Criticising other parties now let's them off the hook
 
SmallTown said:
PPlease can we not do this? The Tories are out of control at the moment. Criticising other parties now let's them off the hook
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Okay sure but that's sort of my point, doesn't the leader of the opposition publically arguing against a criminal investigation also let them off the hook?
 
SuperStu said:
I thought Starmer did quite well in PMQs earlier. Was glad Ian Blackford was asking when the PM would tender his resignation too.

Not sure why Starmers been saying there shouldn't be a criminal investigation tbh. Even if he thinks that, just keep shtum and let other people demand it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1468330919673147395
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From a 6 second clip he's saying we don't need a criminal investigation to make Johnson own up to the party. Which we don't.
 
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