ITV confirmation Number Ten partied whilst the rest of us locked down.

Muttley said:
Christ, you'd hope so.
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The rank and file have to deal with the fallout too. They will have no respect from the public at all. I can understand this but a pc isn't a decision maker. Who would be a police man in the met today
 
It's been proved over and over again that the Met police is an organisation that is not fit for purpose. Led by leaders that have apologized time and time again for their woeful performance, sexist and racist officers. The whole organisation requires a top to bottom clean out. Starting at the top.
 
Laughing said:
It's certainly splitting the party but I am not sure Johnson looks beyond getting to the end of the day, never mind the end of the week.
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Johnson is a bit of a new phenomenon for the Tories. They're usually about getting elected at all costs, as a party. That's why they can get things done where Labour often can't get their act together.

Johnson is different. He wants to be King of the world; he doesn't care what happens after he's gone. If they're unelectable after him, he doesn't care.

However he can hang on in his position, he'll do anything. If people die that's fine; if they lose their jobs, then tough.

He doesn't have any ideology or principles so he can change position any time he likes.
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
Johnson is a bit of a new phenomenon for the Tories. They're usually about getting elected at all costs, as a party. That's why they can get things done where Labour often can't get their act together.

Johnson is different. He wants to be King of the world; he doesn't care what happens after he's gone. If they're unelectable after him, he doesn't care.

However he can hang on in his position, he'll do anything. If people die that's fine; if they lose their jobs, then tough.

He doesn't have any ideology or principles so he can change position any time he likes.
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All true, unfortunately he is a good campaigner but not much else.
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
Johnson is a bit of a new phenomenon for the Tories. They're usually about getting elected at all costs, as a party. That's why they can get things done where Labour often can't get their act together.

Johnson is different. He wants to be King of the world; he doesn't care what happens after he's gone. If they're unelectable after him, he doesn't care.

However he can hang on in his position, he'll do anything. If people die that's fine; if they lose their jobs, then tough.

He doesn't have any ideology or principles so he can change position any time he likes.
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This is all true - but I imagine he might care about his reputation and legacy on leaving office.

He wants to be Churchill and Churchill did a brilliant job of burnishing his own reputation in and out of office. So Johnson will likely think he can do that regardless of what happens.

The big difference is that when faced with a true moment of national peril - not a manufactured one like Brexit - he absolutely shat the bed and did a terrible job. Not very Churchillian.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
This is all true - but I imagine he might care about his reputation and legacy on leaving office.

He wants to be Churchill and Churchill did a brilliant job of burnishing his own reputation in and out of office. So Johnson will likely think he can do that regardless of what happens.

The big difference is that when faced with a true moment of national peril - not a manufactured one like Brexit - he absolutely shat the bed and did a terrible job. Not very Churchillian.
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He will deal with that (or try to) when he has to. As said previously he's just interested in getting to the end of each day.
 
Laughing said:
How embarrassing for the met is that.
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Sadly they don't care, while Johnson is in power they are bulletproof. They also believe they can act in the favour of a political master without fear of prosecution, that impression needs to be burst.

What we need is a declaration by other parties that there will be a full investigation of this once the Tories are dislodged, even if it takes 10 years for that to happen. There is no statute of limitation on corruption and any officer seen to cover up is involved in miscarriage of justice and will risk being sacked and having pension removed as well as jail time. That goes from a beat bobby right up to the head of the Met.

Then see who covers up.
 
BoroMart said:
Sadly they don't care, while Johnson is in power they are bulletproof. They also believe they can act in the favour of a political master without fear of prosecution, that impression needs to be burst.

What we need is a declaration by other parties that there will be a full investigation of this once the Tories are dislodged, even if it takes 10 years for that to happen. There is no statute of limitation on corruption and any officer seen to cover up is involved in miscarriage of justice and will risk being sacked and having pension removed as well as jail time. That goes from a beat bobby right up to the head of the Met.

Then see who covers up.
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I don't disagree. TGLP are pursuing the met through the courts now on their decision not to investigate.
 
Oh dear, Johnson DID attend a lockdown party at Downing St last year....

PM attended Number 10 lockdown party in May 2020 - reports​

It has been alleged that Boris Johnson attended a party with Number 10 staff during the first national lockdown in May last year.
The Guardian and The Independent reported that Mr Johnson was present for 15 minutes at the gathering said to have taken place on 15 May 2020, following a COVID press conference.
The newspapers said the alleged event was held on the same day that Matt Hancock, then Health Secretary, urged people to "please stick with the rules".
At the time the party is said to have taken place, people were only permitted to meet one other person from outside their household in an outdoor, public place, and were told to keep two metres apart.
According to the reports, sources claimed that roughly 20 staff attended, drinking alcohol and eating pizza.
Some were said to have gathered in offices inside Number 10 and others in the garden. It is alleged that drinking went on late into the evening.
The PM reportedly told one attendee that they deserved a drink for "beating back" the virus.
 
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