Labour canvassing at the door

My memory is sketchy too but I vote how I feel at the time. The tories have been a disgrace these last few years but can we trust Labour with the economy ?
but can we trust Labour with the economy ?
Whenever labour present a policy the first question that is asked is "How will you pay for it?"
Have you noticed that this question is NEVER asked to the Tories?
As for trusting Labour with the economy, you might remember that is the Tories who have lost our AAA risk rating .
It is the Tories mates who have fleeced us blind.
So the answer is yes, we can trust Labour with the economy.
 
‘Nobody wants to vote for him‘ yet he is going to win by a landslide??

If you turn a blind eye to the tax fiddling, Rishi seems like a nice fellow and a true man of the people, so why won’t everybody want to vote for him?
Yes. People are sick of the Tories and want a change. They will vote for the party that gives them a change and that will be Labour. Literally any version of Labour will beat the current Tories. I've yet to meet anyone that is going to vote for Labour because of something they will do rather than just to get the Tories out. Compare that to Corbyn where people genuinely wanted what he was offering. Plenty of people didn't, obviously, but Starmer is offering no reason to vote for him other than because he's an alternative to the Tories. Sadly he's only an alternative on the outside. It's clear to see that he offers nothing but being a more competent version of the Tories.

I'm not sure what your Sunak point has to do with anything.
 
Yes. People are sick of the Tories and want a change. They will vote for the party that gives them a change and that will be Labour. Literally any version of Labour will beat the current Tories. I've yet to meet anyone that is going to vote for Labour because of something they will do rather than just to get the Tories out. Compare that to Corbyn where people genuinely wanted what he was offering. Plenty of people didn't, obviously, but Starmer is offering no reason to vote for him other than because he's an alternative to the Tories. Sadly he's only an alternative on the outside. It's clear to see that he offers nothing but being a more competent version of the Tories.

I'm not sure what your Sunak point has to do with anything.
I think you are wrong.

I know plenty of people who will vote Tory because they are the blue side and Labour at the end of the day are just a bunch of communists who want to take the last penny out of their pockets to support immigrants and woke minority groups.

Starmer has said plenty but the constant right wing media drip is that he is not offering anything other than Tory Lite, the inference of course being you might as well have the real thing and vote for Rishi despite him being a crook. Oh and don‘t forget he caused the post office scandal.

And, like the hatchet job the hard right did on Corbyn, it’s already working with a lot more to come.
 
I'll be voting Labour not because of Starmer, the local candidate or because I have much belief in the party. I'll be voting Labour because its the only sure fire way of getting the Tories out. I suspect many people will be the same.

Do I expect things to change for the better in the short term with labour? No not really.
This is the bleak truth isn't it. I'm not a lefty so I'm bot one to judge but reading the true socialists on here there is pretty much zero faith in Starmer. The only thing I would say is that, as Uwe says, getting the Tories out is the only thing we should concentrate on. You can't recover from a cancer until you remove the cancer
 
This is literally Starmers entire leadership tenure to date. He's going to win by a landslide and yet nobody wants to vote for him, they are just voting against the Tories.
I want to vote for him.

I can't wait for a principled decent- boring, if you like, person running our government. Starmer fully understands that the gap between the rich and the poor has hugely widened and needs reversing, he will go about closing the gap as quickly as possible while not doing shock damage to the economy
 
I always wonder how Corbyn would have reacted to Ukraine situation - I think he'd have been very much 'I have a piece of paper from Mr Putin....' type of PM ...& just shake his head as Ukraine got carved up by the Russians... then Lithuania, Estonia & Latvia... Moldova, Romania... Poland.. wobble wobble tut tut
Thats b0llocks. No way of knowing.
 
I beg your pardon!! Is post like "every Tory is a C##t" keeping your opinions in your head?? And some of the criticism on here is downright disgusting!!! You cant have one rule for one, and another rule for another, (whether I am a newbie or not)!!! Jesus wept...what the hellis this all about??
Word salad.

You want to air views feel free, once you do it they are open to public scrutiny, that’s the way it works regardless of your amusing indignation at it
 
Like I said earlier fella "stop being Paranoid". I wont be voting for any party!! And anyway, so what if I was a Tory?? That would be my opinion, my right... why should you be allowed to slate me or anyone else for being different to you??
I’m slating you for digging for evidence to discredit a party, which isn’t the behaviour of someone that claims to not care about politics.

I’ll stick to my view, you’re a Tory party member trying to stir crap up, we’ve had those types around here before

Why should I be allowed to slate you?…because it’s my right to say what I want. Nobody gets a free pass to say whatever they like unchallenged in life…my god how entitled are you! Definitely a Tory then
 
I’m slating you for digging for evidence to discredit a party, which isn’t the behaviour of someone that claims to not care about politics.

I’ll stick to my view, your a Tory party member trying to stir crap up before, we’ve had those types around here before

Why should I be allowed to slate you…because it’s my right to say what I want. Nobody gets a free pass to say whatever they like unchallenged in life…my god how entitled are you! Definitely a Tory then
I wouldn't bother if I were you Mart. You're just giving him the attention that he wants.
 
My memory is sketchy too but I vote how I feel at the time. The tories have been a disgrace these last few years but can we trust Labour with the economy ?
Well the economy was great last time they were in before the sub prime mortgage crash….damn those Americans setting fire to regulations…and the Tories want to deregulate things here, so people learn nothing
 
As for trusting Labour with the economy, you might remember that is the Tories who have lost our AAA risk rating .
It is the Tories mates who have fleeced us blind.
So the answer is yes, we can trust Labour with the economy.

Tbf what you've said there is evidence that we can't trust the tories, not that we can trust Labour.
 
I’m slating you for digging for evidence to discredit a party, which isn’t the behaviour of someone that claims to not care about politics.

I’ll stick to my view, you’re a Tory party member trying to stir crap up, we’ve had those types around here before

Why should I be allowed to slate you?…because it’s my right to say what I want. Nobody gets a free pass to say whatever they like unchallenged in life…my god how entitled are you! Definitely a Tory then
He’s the racism raw troll that frequents the board as bumface rightly said, he just craves attention.
 
There aren't any true socialists on here.

What do you think a socialist is?

I'd guess everyone on here is at least a little bit socialist, even if they don't realise it. I've never seen anyone advocating on here for privatising the fire brigade or the army, navy, and air force, or the police.
 
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