I get what you are saying and as a fan my thought process is the same. But this is the new Boro way. Sell our best players for top fees and re-invest in youth with potential. I'm sure we'll be trying to get more than £8mil but there is NO CHANCE we will be letting him go for free next season. So if we can't agree a new contract, then the best offer will be accepted come the end of the month.
Lens in for Chuba?
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wilkos_perm
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it's ok spending money on potential. But if you just cash in on anyone who commands a decent price you never go anywhere. You're always building for a future that never really happens.
It feels like just a matter of time now, but you never know. I can't see a situation where he stays without signing a new contract.
It's worked for other clubs but you just need everything to align in one season. Loans are a massive part of the puzzle. If we get the right loans in then we could have a really good season.
GibbosEmpire
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They've gained about €70 million in fees this window, so they're not short of cash, cough up or shut up
I think the club have been pretty clear about the direction we're now taking with transfers. If we have a multimillion pound player with only 1 year left on his contract who won't extend then he will be sold if we get a bid that meets our valuation (like Tav and Spence were) and the money put towards running costs and a replacement that we think gives better value for money. What Chuba (or more specifically, his agent) thinks is 'not unreasonable' is likely to differ to the club's view. I'm sure what we've offered would be seen as lucrative to you or I, but the reality is he will be able to get a lot more with a Premier League club (even Sheffield United). The key to this is good recruitment, i.e. the cheaper alternative actually performs better or improves the team. Brentford and Brighton are admired for it but seems our fans are yet to be convinced.
It's about having a strategy and being honest with everyone. It's no good telling the manager they will be backed and then selling their best players because then the next manager won't believe you. It's no good telling players they can come to the club and if they perform well then we'll do what we can to get them a big move if you then refuse to sell. You can be a selling club and be successful but you have to have a strategy of churn to allow players to leave, and get a good fee for them, and then re-invest it. It just requires joined up thinking and everyone being on the same page.
Gibson is supposed to be a brilliant businessman but everything I see seems amateurish. He gets ideas but he doesn't commit to them long term. Some things work and some don't but it seems to be more chance than strategy. Not being accountable to anyone and appointing yes men probably doesn't help.
TeaCider
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Both Tavernier and Spence had 2 years left on their contract.
We sold Tavernier because he wanted to leave.
We sold Spence because we wanted him to leave.
atypical_boro
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Have they got anything left in their Canon?
wilkos_perm
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Of course we're yet to be convinced - our record in the transfer market has generally been very hit and miss plus goalscorers are very very hard to come by. It';s not necessarily the wrong philosophy, but only a few manage to do it with any great degree of success and there's a big likelihood this will end with us going backwards.
Correct but we've had this model for less than 2 years so it hasn't yet had the chance to succeed or fail. Either we think this is the right way to go or we don't and chucking it all out the window and paying Chuba what he wants goes against that. I'm not saying it will get us promoted but due to parachute payments and FFP it's probably the best we can do. I still hold out some hope that an agreement can be reached but criticizing the club if it can't is harsh in my opinion. Top Championship players running down their contracts at other clubs are sold to top flight teams all the time and no one bats an eyelid. Why should Boro be different?
BoroMart
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Brentford cashed in on their best player every year!: Andre grey, Scott Hogan, Chris Mepham, Neil Maupay, Ezri Konza, Ollie Watkins, Said Benrahma….I doubt any of their fans wanted to sell any of them, then they got promoted.
Canyoudigit
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We're selling Chuba because he doesn't want to stay without a pay rise that will have massive repercussions on the clubs finances
Funky_Chicken
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I just don’t get this football club, or more rightly the chairman - he was happy to write of close on £30m on the likes of Assombalonga Fletcher and Gestede but won’t risk losing £2.7m (i think that’s what we paid) on Akpom who might just help get up promoted if he stays. We all know if Chuba goes we aren’t going to get anyone who will score anywhere near what he got last season, so why not keep him and take a chance he’ll fire us to the prem
TurnbullsCans
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I don’t think we should sell him at at all. We’re entitled to another season from him and if he performs like last year, we’re going up. That worth a lot more to us than £8m. I know its a gamble but if seems like one worth taking to me, for the sake of the extra season shot at promotion. There’s also a good chance he signs to stay if we go up anyway.