Local Area. Excersise restrictions

Capybara said:
The point I'm making is they are supposed to have a plan. That plan, if it really is a plan, should include a definition of what local is. So why can't they tell us what it is? And I've said what I think it is further upthread.
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They're not going to because they need loopholes for some.
 
Davey_C said:
www.google.com

Fines reviewed after women 'surrounded by police' - BBC News

Two women were fined £200 after driving five miles to walk around Foremark Reservoir, Derbyshire.
www.google.com www.google.com

5 miles gets you a £200 fine in derbyshire and a cup of tea is defined as a 'picnic' must be the same people who thought a scotch egg was a substantial meal :)
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Damn it was planning on grabbing a pasty out of Cooplands, maybe even a latte from Pacittos.....
 
atypical_boro said:
But this 5 mile thing has simply been conjured up on this board. Why don’t the government talk about 5 miles? Or 10 miles? Or give any guidance at all about the implement of their own rules?

No one has proposed a reason for this, or even speculated on it.
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Not conjured up on board but referencing the reports people were fined for going more than 5 miles. I know each area of the country is different in how things are enforced. Maybe its time some hard and fast rules were given out by those supposedly in charge.
 
I have just read on the BBC website that the government say it is now ok to go fishing. Surely people will have to drive quite a long distance to do this. Makes the 5 mile thinking redundant now. Some clear guidance would help people understand how they can excersise and still keep within the guidelines.
 
homesickblues said:
I have just read on the BBC website that the government say it is now ok to go fishing. Surely people will have to drive quite a long distance to do this. Makes the 5 mile thinking redundant now. Some clear guidance would help people understand how they can excersise and still keep within the guidelines.
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The guidance on fishing clearly states you can do so if you remain local, therefore if you do not have a place local to fish you are not allowed
 
The couple who get fined in Derbyshire are having their fines rescinded as it doesn't specify any restrictions on distance. Baffled me, what difference does it make where you are as long as you are isolated from others. And why only once a day? I took the dog to Preston Park today and as usual I went through the woods and round to the Preston Farm nature reserve. It was too flooded to get through to Bowesfield Nature Reserve. When I got back to the main park area it was swarming. Groups of (middle class) people stood round talking. Don't see how that situation in a local park is better than two people on a deserted fellside 30 miles away.
 
Local is defined in 2 ways.

1. If you go into a pub does the piano player stop playing and everyone stop talking and turn around to look at you? If so you are not local.

2. A scotch egg with a side salad or chips.
 
Blindschool said:
The couple who get fined in Derbyshire are having their fines rescinded as it doesn't specify any restrictions on distance. Baffled me, what difference does it make where you are as long as you are isolated from others. And why only once a day? I took the dog to Preston Park today and as usual I went through the woods and round to the Preston Farm nature reserve. It was too flooded to get through to Bowesfield Nature Reserve. When I got back to the main park area it was swarming. Groups of (middle class) people stood round talking. Don't see how that situation in a local park is better than two people on a deserted fellside 30 miles away.
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My back’s gone, we needed to get some walking in the try to loosen it up today. Should I drive seven or eight miles to the beach and walk, or walk round the iced up pavements here risking a slip\fall and putting more pressure on the NHS?
 
Shouldnt be shocked at Derby police after the way they behaved throughout the first lockdown. Surely the key to all of this is keeping the public on their side, daft fines for meeting people outdoors a few miles from their homes will just push even the most responsible people to just meeting indoors where they have little chance of being caught.

Considering the spread is minimal in an outdoor setting, people should be encouraged to be getting out in their local areas
 
The police enforce the law not guidance. This is what the law actually says:

Exceptions: leaving home​

2.—(1) These are the exceptions referred to in paragraph 1.

Exception 1: leaving home necessary for certain purposes​

(2) Exception 1 is that it is reasonably necessary for the person concerned (“P”) to leave or be outside the place where P is living (“P’s home”)—

(c)to take exercise outside—

(i)alone,

(ii)with—

(aa)one or more members of their household, their linked household, or

(bb)where exercise is being taken as part of providing informal childcare for a child aged 13 or under, one or more members of their linked childcare household, or

(iii)in a public outdoor place, with one other person who is not a member of their household, their linked household or their linked childcare household

So, as you can see, it's all perfectly straightforward and there is no need to define what 'local area' means at all. We simply need to understand what is meant by 'reasonably necessary', which sounds clear enough to me...
 
I would say if you have to ask yourself, am I local to where I live, you're probably not. Yes it's not defined and yes there are going to be different interpretations up and the down the country (Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire police interpret it differently), but how about people just err on the side of caution rather than trying to test the law, just a thought.
 
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