Matt Le Tissier

What was the whole “November 5th, the return of princess Diana. 88 miles per hour, the return of princess Diana. 282 that 88 miles per hour. And that’s all to do with November the 5th” thing? 🤪
 
Le Tissier blocked me on Twitter

He posted something having a pop at Gary Lineker along the lines of “who does he think is he”

I replied that he was a football pundit who didn’t post anti vax nonsense and had managed to keep his job on TV.

The state of the replies I got.

Blokes an absolute loon.
 
Cousin_of_Fabio said:
He just seems bitter about everything, his sacking on sky sports (which he wasn't the only one), and his lack of England caps. The fact he says 'because I didn't play for a bigger club I didn't get enough caps' is his first conspiracy of which he could have rectified that himself as bigger clubs came calling he was too lazy and comfortable where he actually was.

Just get a grip man and do Southampton's hospitality suite on match day and pipe the f down.
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I know he's a lunatic but he's not wrong about England selections. You shouldn't have to sign for a 'big club' if you're doing it consistently elsewhere, and he was.

Look at the players in Ramsey's England team, some of them played for crap teams (Ball and Cohen), others played for mediocre sides (Moore, Hurst, Peters, Banks), only Stiles, Charlton, Huntingdon and Wilson were playing for sides that might challenge for the top spots.

It's been the same through the decades since. How come we haven't got a decent centre back now, is it because the best players at the big clubs are foreign, so we pick their second best players?
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
I know he's a lunatic but he's not wrong about England selections. You shouldn't have to sign for a 'big club' if you're doing it consistently elsewhere, and he was.

Look at the players in Ramsey's England team, some of them played for crap teams (Ball and Cohen), others played for mediocre sides (Moore, Hurst, Peters, Banks), only Stiles, Charlton, Huntingdon and Wilson were playing for sides that might challenge for the top spots.

It's been the same through the decades since. How come we haven't got a decent centre back now, is it because the best players at the big clubs are foreign, so we pick their second best players?
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It's a very different situation to the 60s. Not comparable at all. These days the gulf in quality between the top teams and the others is huge. The top teams only have very good players. The best players that aren't at the top teams are bought by the top teams. If they aren't it's because they aren't the best. That was always true but the difference between a midtable side and the league winners was much smaller back then so there was more chance of the best players playing for other teams.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
I know he's a lunatic but he's not wrong about England selections. You shouldn't have to sign for a 'big club' if you're doing it consistently elsewhere, and he was.

Look at the players in Ramsey's England team, some of them played for crap teams (Ball and Cohen), others played for mediocre sides (Moore, Hurst, Peters, Banks), only Stiles, Charlton, Huntingdon and Wilson were playing for sides that might challenge for the top spots.

It's been the same through the decades since. How come we haven't got a decent centre back now, is it because the best players at the big clubs are foreign, so we pick their second best players?
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He didn’t get picked for England because he was fat and lazy. He might have scored quite a few screamers but there’s no way he would do that at international level and everyone knew it. There wasn’t exactly a great clamour for him to play for England at the time
 
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Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
I know he's a lunatic but he's not wrong about England selections. You shouldn't have to sign for a 'big club' if you're doing it consistently elsewhere, and he was.

Look at the players in Ramsey's England team, some of them played for crap teams (Ball and Cohen), others played for mediocre sides (Moore, Hurst, Peters, Banks), only Stiles, Charlton, Huntingdon and Wilson were playing for sides that might challenge for the top spots.

It's been the same through the decades since. How come we haven't got a decent centre back now, is it because the best players at the big clubs are foreign, so we pick their second best players?
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To be fair Mings was getting picked before villas resurgence, Pickford isn’t at a big club. Konsa, Dunk, Branthwaite! Then we’ve got Toney, Watkins and Bowen up top not at the top clubs.

Big club bias happens much less these days then say the early 00s
 
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Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
I know he's a lunatic but he's not wrong about England selections. You shouldn't have to sign for a 'big club' if you're doing it consistently elsewhere, and he was.

Look at the players in Ramsey's England team, some of them played for crap teams (Ball and Cohen), others played for mediocre sides (Moore, Hurst, Peters, Banks), only Stiles, Charlton, Huntingdon and Wilson were playing for sides that might challenge for the top spots.

It's been the same through the decades since. How come we haven't got a decent centre back now, is it because the best players at the big clubs are foreign, so we pick their second best players?
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I agree, I do think it's slightly changing now under GS, in MLT's time what period will he be referring too th most? Euro 96? WC 98? If you look at the players that didn't make the 11 or even the squad it's ridiculous.

If you listen to players who played with him at Southampton and he's even said himself everyone had to run that bit more to compensate for Le Tissier being able to do what he does, again he's already answered his own question as to why he wasn't picked for England - he wasn't good enough to do that at international level. You have international teams doing that but that's for people like Messi, Ronaldo or teams that have that 1 good player who's at a big club. (Like Liberia for George Weah).

We were never going to do that for him with what we had at our disposal at the time.
 
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Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
How come we haven't got a decent centre back now
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I'd opine that Maguire and Stones are "decent" by any measure. Geuhi from Palace and Dunk of Brighton have had a "look in" from lesser sides, there's also Mings (long term injury currently), Konsa and Colwill have been given a go. I don't think we lack in the CB options. Full backs and in particular LBs not so much.
 
Cousin_of_Fabio said:
I agree, I do think it's slightly changing now under GS, in MLT's time what period will he be referring too th most? Euro 96? WC 98? If you look at the players that didn't make the 11 or even the squad it's ridiculous.

If you listen to players who played with him at Southampton and he's even said himself everyone had to run that bit more to compensate for Le Tissier being able to do what he does, again he's already answered his own question as to why he wasn't picked for England - he wasn't good enough to do that at international level. You have international teams doing that but that's for people like Messi, Ronaldo or teams that have that 1 good player who's at a big club. (Like Liberia for George Weah).

We were never going to that for him with what we had at our disposal at the time.
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I seem to recall his England career covered the periods when Venables and Hoddle were in charge, neither of whom were averse to playing flair players and do remember Hoddle picking him at home against Italy in a vital World Cup Qualifier that we lost. I'm not sure who he should have gone ahead of in 96, 98 or 2002 and we didn't qualify in 1994? Maybe his gripe is with Taylor, but then it wasn't personal against Matthew as he wouldn't pick Waddle or Beardsley who were both still performing well and chose the like of Palmer and Thomas, who hardly played for big clubs. Le Tissier shone in a poor Southampton side, but never achieved anything of note.
 
Muttley said:
I'd opine that Maguire and Stones are "decent" by any measure. Geuhi from Palace and Dunk of Brighton have had a "look in" from lesser sides, there's also Mings (long term injury currently), Konsa and Colwill have been given a go. I don't think we lack in the CB options. Full backs and in particular LBs not so much.
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We have lots of CB options, but only Stones is really top top quality. Maguire a leader and character and has the experience but is a level or two below Stones.Konsa, Mings etc. are about the same level as Maguire but with less champs league, uefa or international experience to back it up
 
All the skill in the world but not the attitude to go with it this is more likely the reason for so few England caps and why really he didnt move to a so called big club because he would then have to compete with player on a near level of skill but with a better attitude. Southampton afforded him this attitude and he has done nothing but moan about it ever since.
 
uncle_rico said:
Alan Moore has spoken openly about his struggles with mental health and how he nearly killed himself. I don’t think it’s fair to compare him to nutjob.
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I may well have missed him opening up about that as I unfollowed him when he started sharing anti-vax conspiracy theories during covid. Looks like he's come off Twitter now so can't see if that was before or after his mental health struggles.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
I know he's a lunatic but he's not wrong about England selections. You shouldn't have to sign for a 'big club' if you're doing it consistently elsewhere, and he was.

Look at the players in Ramsey's England team, some of them played for crap teams (Ball and Cohen), others played for mediocre sides (Moore, Hurst, Peters, Banks), only Stiles, Charlton, Huntingdon and Wilson were playing for sides that might challenge for the top spots.

It's been the same through the decades since. How come we haven't got a decent centre back now, is it because the best players at the big clubs are foreign, so we pick their second best players?
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They gave a centre half from Brighton a go last time out and he was totally outclassed. Marc Guehi played as many England games as any other centre half last year too- maybe they're just not as good as Stones/Maguire?
 
35to39 said:
They gave a centre half from Brighton a go last time out and he was totally outclassed. Marc Guehi played as many England games as any other centre half last year too- maybe they're just not as good as Stones/Maguire?
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Maybe, but Stones and Maguire aren't great as a partnership as were often reminded.
 
Le Tissier obviously has some very strange opinions/beliefs and is a bit of a loony, but I don’t really think it’s fair that these kind of peopled are seemingly shunned by society these days. So he thinks differently/is wrong about stuff. The world would be boring if we were all the same and all thought the same.

I know people will say he spread 'harmful misinformation' during covid but anyone listening to Matt Le Tissier or seeking his advice during a global pandemic should really take responsibility for their own stupidity.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Maybe, but Stones and Maguire aren't great as a partnership as were often reminded.
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Not this again please. One plays for a team going for a double-treble, the other was in the last world cup team of the tournament.
Both played consistently throughout our last 3 tournaments (QF, SF and final) where we've conceded 12 goals in 17 games- throughout which time people have constantly moaned about them
 
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