BoroMart
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I don't buy white processed crap either......but when they run out people will steal my artisan wholemeal, 5 grain bloomer, because it's that or nothing.
McDonalds run out of milkshakes in Brexit UK
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futureboy
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I am always surprised at the qs to get into the Riverside stadium. The football is poor and not cheap for what you get. Lots of stray passes, missed opportunities and poor defending - there have been 145 years of warnings.
Yet people still enjoy what they enjoy. Just like McDonalds.
Chris_Boro
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Thing is, we are not even at the worst of it yet...
All food and drink from the EU will be subject to boarder checks from October and from 1st Jan *All* imported single stem flowers will have to have its own plant passport and phytosanitary certificate.
All food and drink from the EU will be subject to boarder checks from October and from 1st Jan *All* imported single stem flowers will have to have its own plant passport and phytosanitary certificate.
Laughing
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You are right that supply will get worse Chris, of that there is no doubt, as checks kick in and travel becomes more common so ports are busier.
The driver shortage at the moment won't be ameliorated by removing the EU work visa requirements for drivers though. A large percentage left in April because of the change to tax laws for self employed drivers.
Drivers need to be paid appropriately.
Customs checks will create worse problems though and they were avoidable either through remaining in the customs Union or by preparing for leaving by upgrading ports and staffing levels and putting the intfrastructure in place ahead of time. Neither was done by Johnson.
Erimus74
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Not to mention the mess littered everywhere, bags of mcdonalds just discarded on a park bench, on the floor, in a park, anywhere except a bin
BoroMart
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stock your cupboards up and get your turkeys in early, we're in for a bumpy ride
SmallTown
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Great levels of deflection here to ignore the brexit shambles.
I honestly think it's actually shameful that people are so desperate to not admit they made a mistake that they actually ignore food shortages. I've said this before but I know there will be a tipping point where enough people realise brexit has been a catastrophe that we start demanding fixes. I'm staggered that that point isn't when we have shortages of food. I didn't realise people were that desperate to cling to this failing process. I can't for the life of me imagine what Brexitists believe in if they accept food shortages, what could it be for?
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BoroMart
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ah IR35, another government f...k up, going for soft targets of hard working people that don't get employee rights, such as sick days.....while they turn a blind eye to millionaires offshoring to avoid tax and give sweetheart deals to foreign companies.
Anyone should be allowed to work outside of IR35 as a limited company contractor in any industry. It means they have to handle their accounts, have downtime between contracts, cover their sick pay, take out relevant insurances etc. It isn't the same as being a permanent employee while avoiding taxes. In fact I pay a hell of a lot more in total via corporation, dividend, paye, and vat into the public coffers than I would if I was doing the same job as a 9-5 employee. Business also did not want these changes, because they liked the access to a flexible workforce, able to uplift to support project work and ultimately investment to keep their business competitive. The only people that wanted an end to IR35 were fulltime employees who felt aggrieved at the contractors with a higher take home pay, without every thinking about the other benefits the permie employee got. The government saw ir35 'loophole' as a vote winner so pushed it against advice from Institute of Directors, Road Haulage Association and other organisations that could see the issues it would cause.
File along with brexit, track and trace system, universal credit, court modernisation, High Speed 2, and all the other failed Tory projects
Colgates_shaving_foam
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The debate is still too raw and the referendum still too recent. People don't like to admit to themselves they have been conned and made fools of.
There is nothing to be gained by pointing it out at the moment though because of what I said above.
It will naturally become one of those things where in a couple of years you won't find anyone who will admit to voting leave.
At that point we can start to discuss fixing the situation and joining the customs union and single market.
bear66
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Are you saying that none of the 500,000 people who were in Hartlepool in '86 will admit to voting Brexit?
BoroMart
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we all know how this plays out, those that can't hide that they were once brexiteers, will argue that we remainers didn't do enough to stop them voting the way they did. That we relied on "Project Fear", that it's actually the French and Germans punishing us, that we knew it would be 50 years because Reese-Mogg told us so, that it's the politicians who lied but so did remain, that it would have worked but it was the inept government that failed (and then they will still go and put a tick next to a conservative at a GE).....etc. etc. a huge proportion of them will always look for an excuse elsewhere because they are so entrenched. I'm still waiting for a single significant net 'benefit' in the 5 years since we voted to leave, there isn't one, not one.
SmallTown
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Where will the country be in 2 years though? That's my worry. Even though I knew brexit would be terrible even I didn't think we would be facing food shortages this early into the process. It honestly concerns me where we are headed and the major issue is that so many people are so proud that they can't even admit they are wrong yet, so we actually have arguments about the process that is causing food shortages. It's a concern that people still aren't getting it. I don't know what it'll take at the moment.
Laughing
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Been in that boat myself bm and stopped contacting because of the amount of work you do away from actually earning any money. For me it was worth going back permanent to get rid of the stress.
I think ir35 was initially introduced to avoid a loophole where people were leaving their jobs on Friday and restarting with the same company on Monday as a contractor in name but really a permanent employee. Since then it has become a stick to beat the self employed with.
Can't agree it's not cheap. Burgers I think start at 99p and fries 79p. Not many other high street chains that could match that.
Unravel_Morrison
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It was never likely to be any different once the vote came through. The rules of the CU and SM are governed by the CJEU which was always the body that the Leavers wanted to escape the jurisdiction of.
Muttley
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What like Mr. Farage?
When he said "why can't we be like Norway?" I presumed he meant continued membership of the CU and SM and perhaps even signing up to Shengen...
Centralscrutinizer
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Our world leading government will kick the can down the road again I reckon. They won't be ready to take control of our own borders and won't want to be exposed to the political fallout caused by the **** show of trying to do it properly/on schedule.
bear66
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And 99p for a coffee
SmallTown
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This would be my ideal scenario right now. A Norway style renegotiation. It probably won't happen though because a lot of Brexitists voted in terms of bigotry and won't accept Schengen.