Mike Dean

[Billy69_uk]

It would be a disaster.

In 1987 season the Conference tinkered with the offside law by deeming no offsides from free kicks. All it did was reduce the game to farcical melees in the box. The rule was scrapped after one season.

What about only offsides in the 18 yard box?

 

[Londons_Moggie]

Has asked to be removed from all fixtures and has called in the police due to threats to his and his families lives. Terrible

 

[Londons_Moggie]

What about only offsides in the 18 yard box?

Defending teams would never enter the box meaning you could only score from outside it or from a cut back in the area

 

[BoroMart]

Laws - and the interpretation of laws - change over time though (offside, handball, back pass, tackle from behind ...), so aren't immutable. They've been changed to serve something greater, which we could characterise as the watchability and appeal of the game. So the laws exist to serve the game, not vice versa.

true, but this is about the ability apply those laws and VAR quantifiably improves the application of the law as it currently stands with regards to offside and in/out box penalty/free kick decisions.

It's the lack of flow and spontaneity for me, and the fact that we are spending more time looking and relooking at borderline decisions than celebrating the skill and excitement of the footie.

But that is a process issue, and just as laws change over time to improve viewing, process can improve over time to improve viewing. You can't expect VAR to be perfect from day one, it takes time to be faster, more accurate, more efficient, and ultimately less pervasive to the enjoyment of the game.

Mike Dean's performance which prompted the OP suggests however that we are some way from that. TV seems determined to make it a song and dance

The issue with Mike Dean, was that it was the use of VAR to support a human decision. That will always be flawed. Bur offside, and did the contact occur in or out of box is a simple decision to give. We can get circa 100% accuracy on those decisions, we cannot get that on 'was it a foul', 'was it violent conduct', because there is a human factor and always shall be.

 

[Same_as_before]

They can, but as long as they apply the technology in the same manner, using the same processes, it is far, far better than not applying it. IT isn't perfect, but within the scope of the available technology it's as near as damn it.

It can be frustrating, I get that, but debatable offside goals are a thing of the past and I'm glad about it having seen loads of terrible offside decisions over the decades.

I want debatable offside, I want to argue that was or was not a penalty, this is why I no longer watch Premier League games, the purists have won.

 

[theredrooster]

I want debatable offside, I want to argue that was or was not a penalty, this is why I no longer watch Premier League games, the purists have won.

I think technology should enhance the game and make it more enjoyable. In the case of the Hawkeye - 'did it cross the line' technology that is true. It has cleared up an obvious issue, works quickly and has improved the game.

The VAR stuff is laborious cumbersome **** that infuriates and irritates and detracts from the game. One of the reasons we love footy is at its heart it is a very simple game that can easily be replicated all over the world. This almighty ****show that has been badly implemented, alongside it must be said, poor changes to the laws of the game are ridiculous and just move us further away from a simple game for the masses. It becomes more and more like you need a degree in trigonometry to understand what is going on every week. Bin it!

As for the Mike Dean stuff, he seems an egomaniac but no one deserves to be subjected to what he and his family are having to put up with.

 

[Cuthbert]

What about only offsides in the 18 yard box?

Hockey got rid of the offside rule years ago. At the time I think everyone thought it would lead to loads of goal hanging, but it didn't really. (If they ever did decide to get rid of offside in football there would no doubt be a transitional period where teams worked it out, but maybe it wouldn't make as much difference as we might imagine)