New Champions League format

Ironops

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Apparently a deal is close to expand it to 36 teams in a 'Swiss style' system with a league table:


knock on effect could be a reduction in the size of the Prem or changes to the league cup I guess
 
They're on about selling the last 15 minutes of the matches, because apparently kids don't have the attention span to watch a full match.

I honestly hate UEFA.
 
Their greed is beyond a joke.

The fact they haven't scrapped this season's CL or at best, reduced the games to single knockout ties just proves how greedy they are. They'll put money above everything, including players welfare and health.

A disgusting organisation.
 
If they want to expand, why don't they put every top flight side, in every European country into one big pot, one game ties, FA cup style. Then every top flight teams fans (when back in stadia) can get to experience european football. Winning the trophy would be about the same number of games as winning the current champs league. Plus it will be a much more meaningful competition than the current competition. Every game will be meaningful, none will exist just to create more advertising revenue.

It'll never happen though because it doesn't guarentee 8 games for the european heavyweights.

We need to stop pampering to the big clubs, they're ruining the game.
 
Try to understand any proposed change from the approach of the majority of those now in power in football.
Will it make us more money?.
I'm surprised a Euro Super League hasn't been formed yet.
Why would a Thai chairman with South Korean sponsors, a Dutch Manager and a team made up of South American, African, Spanish Scottish and a few English players not consider playing teams regularly who are based in major city's after than Brighton or Burnley???.
Sporting Glory didn't come into it any more, If money doesn't follow, sadly.
 
Self serving and self centred by the bigger clubs of European football. Remember when the Champions League had two group stages? Isn't this the same thing just packaged differently? That didn't work.
 
A little pet hate of mine is the fact it's still called 'The Champions League' - when in fact a team that has won absolutely nothing from the previous season can qualify and go on to win 'The Champions League' the following season.
 

"We could imagine a subscription for the last 15 minutes of a specific game,” Agnelli said (via The Guardian). “The attention span of today’s kids and tomorrow’s spenders is completely different to the one I had when I was their age.

If you take golf, if it’s interesting at all, it’s only the last six holes on the final day. You are not going to watch the whole thing on the TV unless you are a hardcore fan.”


The idea that 90 minutes is too long for people to pay attention is a baffling outlook by the people in charge of European football.
It's the thin wedge to them trying to reduce the length of matches.
 
Try to understand any proposed change from the approach of the majority of those now in power in football.
Will it make us more money?.
I'm surprised a Euro Super League hasn't been formed yet.
Why would a Thai chairman with South Korean sponsors, a Dutch Manager and a team made up of South American, African, Spanish Scottish and a few English players not consider playing teams regularly who are based in major city's after than Brighton or Burnley???.
Sporting Glory didn't come into it any more, If money doesn't follow, sadly.
Apparently this new Swiss format and more teams heads off the challenge of a break away league and is seen as a good compromise with the parties that want one.

But yeah, greed is the word
 
A little pet hate of mine is the fact it's still called 'The Champions League' - when in fact a team that has won absolutely nothing from the previous season can qualify and go on to win 'The Champions League' the following season.
In rugby union the competition also has Champions in it too - the Champions Cup (even though many are not domestic champions).
 
The idiocy of that guy though.

He thinks the reason German teams play a maximum of 43 games compared to our 53 is because they have 2 fewer teams in the top flight, excellent maths on his part.
It's clearly because we have an additional cup competition.
 
Right the lot of you, Liverpool, Barca, Real, Chelsea, all of you, buggger off. Form your little tin pot league but in five, ten or twenty years time when endless repeats of you playing each other has lost all interest don't expect to simply drop back in to the top tier of your domestic league. You will re-join at the very lowest professional level.

While we're talking about it. If you want to stay, forget this nonsense and let's redistribute the moneys more fairly so attendance money goes 50/50 to both teams playing any particular game, TV money goes to all teams regardless of who is being shown. I want to see a league where there is fair competition, the "big" clubs will always have an advantage but it has become so distorted that it is practically impossible for a smaller team to win it.
 
Also I don't quite see how a ban on players transferring between two 'Champions League' teams can be implemented? Surely it would be a restriction of trade anyway, at some point, from but a player's point of view - how are you going to buy someone for life? Do Inter buy Thiago from Liverpool... forever? How does he move clubs in future? If he runs his contract down there won't be a fee so I can't see how a club would vote for that. Or am I missing something with that?

"No triple figure deals between Champions League participating clubs..." - looks like I might've been missing something. But it still seems bizarre, and to be talking of just "focusing on buying players from smaller countries..." where do they draw the line with this? They have already completely ransacked football in South America and Africa. They already buy their footballers from these smaller countries when they're of school age. It's amazing to see this stuff written down really. You know it goes on behind closed doors but it still surprises you at times.
 
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Right the lot of you, Liverpool, Barca, Real, Chelsea, all of you, buggger off. Form your little tin pot league but in five, ten or twenty years time when endless repeats of you playing each other has lost all interest don't expect to simply drop back in to the top tier of your domestic league. You will re-join at the very lowest professional level.

While we're talking about it. If you want to stay, forget this nonsense and let's redistribute the moneys more fairly so attendance money goes 50/50 to both teams playing any particular game, TV money goes to all teams regardless of who is being shown. I want to see a league where there is fair competition, the "big" clubs will always have an advantage but it has become so distorted that it is practically impossible for a smaller team to win it.
The big problem with creating a European Super League is that someone has to finish bottom. Who wants to watch 16th-placed Chelsea play 13th-placed Atletico Madrid in an end of season dead rubber? People already avoid watching group stage matches. Everybody knows the group stages are, in the main, utter sh*te. A construct to protect the wealthiest clubs and keep them in the competition for longer.
 
The big problem with creating a European Super League is that someone has to finish bottom. Who wants to watch 16th-placed Chelsea play 13th-placed Atletico Madrid in an end of season dead rubber? People already avoid watching group stage matches. Everybody knows the group stages are, in the main, utter sh*te. A construct to protect the wealthiest clubs and keep them in the competition for longer.
People do watch those matches in american sport though, I guess it matters less when every game is available and the money shared out accordingly.
 
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