No plans for 24-hour Covid vaccination centres, says No 10

BoroFur

BoroFur

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Nobody wants an out of hours vaccination apparently and neither will the process be speeded up.

So the other day when Keir Starmer suggested 24 hour vaccinations he was lambasted by the usual suspects on here for being 'Captain Hindsight' and unable to come up with his own ideas.

Turns out the Government doesn't like good ideas suggested by the Leader of the Opposition. I mean, it's not like we're in the middle of a national crisis is it?

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'No clamour' for Covid vaccinations after 8pm, says Downing Street

Press secretary says there are no plans for 24-hour centres, citing apparent lack of demand
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People would be queuing up. And not just to take them - I'm sure that people would be happy to administer them as well, given that it would help us beat this thing quicker
 
Much as I would love to lambast this government even more, I actually think there is little merit in 24 hour vaccination centres. Certainly at the current point in time.

They are probably already working at the limit of their available resources in terms of trained staff and supply of vaccine.

If you then look at the priority groups for vaccination, I can’t imagine very many 80+ year olds would fancy popping out for a jab at 3am. Even if they did, there’s no public transport available at that time.

Perhaps an idea for a few months’ time when they have more trained staff, vaccine supply and are looking to vaccinate the public at large.
 
Johnson has avoided any risk of being proactive throughout so no surprises here. If he was to say, we're not in a position to do that and explain why not I would have some respect for him (limited admittedly) but no he will not do it because Starmer thought of it first...

Johnson, "Following the science" (by approximately two weeks)
 
Billy Horner said:
Much as I would love to lambast this government even more, I actually think there is little merit in 24 hour vaccination centres. Certainly at the current point in time.

They are probably already working at the limit of their available resources in terms of trained staff and supply of vaccine.

If you then look at the priority groups for vaccination, I can’t imagine very many 80+ year olds would fancy popping out for a jab at 3am. Even if they did, there’s no public transport available at that time.

Perhaps an idea for a few months’ time when they have more trained staff, vaccine supply and are looking to vaccinate the public at large.
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Understand that Billy but if one of the reasons is the NHS is working at the limit of its available resources in terms of trained staff then why not say so?
 
BoroFur said:
Understand that Billy but if one of the reasons is the NHS is working at the limit of its available resources in terms of trained staff then why not say so?
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Nadhim Zahawi was given the opportunity to give a reason this morning and managed to talk and talk and not give a reason.
 
Billy Horner said:
Much as I would love to lambast this government even more, I actually think there is little merit in 24 hour vaccination centres. Certainly at the current point in time.

They are probably already working at the limit of their available resources in terms of trained staff and supply of vaccine.

If you then look at the priority groups for vaccination, I can’t imagine very many 80+ year olds would fancy popping out for a jab at 3am. Even if they did, there’s no public transport available at that time.

Perhaps an idea for a few months’ time when they have more trained staff, vaccine supply and are looking to vaccinate the public at large.
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But equally medical staff, some carers, firemen and police all work 24 hours so the night may be a very opportune time to vaccinate key workers?
 
Not sure about 24 hour, but they should definitely be doing 12 hours a day, 9-9 or suchlike. I'd be well annoyed if I got a 3am appointment to have mine. I mean, I'd do it, I just wouldn't be too chuffed at having to go do it in the middle of the night.
 
I'm sure there would be ways to work it. Like you say between 0100 and 0500 might not get a lot of take up, but I'd say 0600-0000 wouldn't be that unrealistic.
 
I just think we all need to think a bit differently and that includes employers.
This is nothing like any of us have experienced before.
If I was given a 2:00am appointment I'd be taking it. A bit like having an early flight. Go to bed for a few hours then get up for the early morning appointment. If that meant I needed a sleep in the next day and needed the morning off work I'd hope my employer would see it as being necessary for the greater good.
 
BoroFur said:
I just think we all need to think a bit differently and that includes employers.
This is nothing like any of us have experienced before.
If I was given a 2:00am appointment I'd be taking it. A bit like having an early flight. Go to bed for a few hours then get up for the early morning appointment. If that meant I needed a sleep in the next day and needed the morning off work I'd hope my employer would see it as being necessary for the greater good.
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I think any decent employer would be supportive of this.
 
Caesium137 said:
But equally medical staff, some carers, firemen and police all work 24 hours so the night may be a very opportune time to vaccinate key workers?
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Like I say, that would only work if you actually have the staff and vaccine supply to enable 24 hour working.

Also, whilst NHS staff and care workers are in the current priority groups, I don’t believe that police, fire or other key workers are. Unless you have a surplus in supply of vaccine, for every person you vaccinate outside of the priority groups, you will be delaying vaccination for someone who is within them.
 
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