Post Brexit Food Import Charges

My weekly shop is around 25% more, cost wise than it was a year ago, for less actual groceries. The idea that these extra costs will only have an effect upon people who eat at deli’s is ridiculous. It will hit everyone, particularly those that can least afford it. Personally, if I was Starmer, I would be seeking a new referendum in a second term. Vote would be very different as would the outcome. I do agree that many who voted for Brexit would claim they always knew how damaging it would be and that it would take years to get back to where we where but also that they believe it was worth it. They will be kidding themselves on all counts.
 
ThePrisoner said:
Just been to Morrisons. Shower gel is less than it was a few weeks ago. Get in!

Still 60% higher than it was a year or so ago though :mad:
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But what did it taste like and is it a suitable substitute for artisanal salami. Of course we could all just stick to fish fingers.🙄
 
BoroBosco said:
On the 29th Feb 2020, one month after brexit, olive oil was trading at $2737/mt, on 29th Feb 2024 it was trading at $10067/mt so we have done well if we are only paying 3 times as much rather than 4.


I heard a discussion on this on the today programme on radio 4 so the BBC are covering it. I suspect the reason it has top billing in the Guardian is that it is going to have a far greater effect on the price of an artisan salami in an Islington deli than on fish fingers in your local Aldi.
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Well, I live in Northampton and only ever shop at Aldi because my take home is 1600 a month, but like Unravel says, it's people who notice every single price movement who suffer. Fish fingers in Aldi nearly doubled also btw (though I only buy the cheap ones).

(I'm also a member of the Guardian, which I consider the least I can do considering all the top-quality content I consume on their site.)
 
John67 said:
Used to live in Islington and there are some lovely bits but it is mostly rough as a badger a#@e
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I lived near Drayton Park station, we had a small Tesco, a greasy spoon cafe, an off licence/shop and a hardware shop. The local was the away pub for the Emirates, those of you who went in would know what it was like, now closed.

Like most of the places not on or around Upper Street it was like an old Teesside area.
 
CtC, used to be some good pubs on Holloway Road. Agree much of the area is big and rough council estates with nice roads in between, bits worse than anything in Boro.
 
Islington is a borough of contrasts. In the last 10 years I have visited the market at the Angel Islington and Islington Library area for a Spanish Civil War Exhibition and they were both solid middle class and certainly not Old Teesside like areas. A lot of London has gentrified in the last 20 years especially North London look at Camden.
 
Prices will undoubtedly rise massively in all supermarkets.
Give them any excuse to raise prices and they go for it with great gusto.
Everything and much more (for even more profits/bonuses) is always passed directly onto customers.
Strangely nothing ever comes down when any "crisis" is over.
 
Redwurzel said:
Islington is a borough of contrasts. In the last 10 years I have visited the market at the Angel Islington and Islington Library area for a Spanish Civil War Exhibition and they were both solid middle class and certainly not Old Teesside like areas. A lot of London has gentrified in the last 20 years especially North London look at Camden.
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The majority of it isn't 'solid middle class', in fact very little is for me but I guess we have different definitions of middle class.
 
CC - Have you been to Sadlers Wells Theatre area? or the Angel Islington Market in the last 10 years?

These are better areas of London and have plenty of nice delis. I didn't say they were the majority. But they are areas of significance in Islington and the trend is towards gentrification.

To all posters - If people don't believe significant parts of North London have gentrified say since the 1990s they are walking around with blind folds on. I do know West London better and there many bookies shops, dodgy pubs, greasy spoon cafes have been replaced by estate agents, shops making bread for £5 a loaf, artisan meats, retro second hand furniture selling well above its original new price, Mediterrean deli, that to me is moving from working class to middle class to me. I can only report what I see changed over the last 25 years. In general I don't see the same change on Teesside I am afraid in fact some areas appear to have gone down hill. The average person in the street would know what Bosco meant by an Islington Deli and I believe the people on this board are intelligent enough to know to, but want an argument.

Ref Food non-tariff barriers will increase food prices e.g. quality checks - the EEC/EU have always (as a general policy) protected farmers with trade barriers from outside the EEC/EU which in general has kept prices higher with in the EU/EEC than they could be. The majority of politicians within the EEC/EU thought this was right for food security, food quality and to protect rural communities which form a higher percentage of National economies in many Member States than the UK and more importantly their vote can make a big difference in elections. The level of this protection has reduced in recent years - hence mass farmer protests within the EU about low and falling prices, and some EU rules that they say have significantly increased their costs.
 
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Islington is a very big borough. Holloway all the way to the borders of Hackney. There are some lovely areas around Highbury, Upper Street etc but there is also Finsbury Park & Caledonian Road which can be described as less than solid middle class. Blooming Expensive as well.
 
Redwurzel said:
CC - Have you been to Sadlers Wells Theatre area? or the Angel Islington Market in the last 10 years?

These are better areas of London and have plenty of nice delis. I didn't say they were the majority. But they are areas of significance in Islington and the trend is towards gentrification.

To all posters - If people don't believe significant parts of North London have gentrified say since the 1990s they are walking around with blind folds on. I do know West London better and there many bookies shops, dodgy pubs, greasy spoon cafes have been replaced by estate agents, shops making bread for £5 a loaf, artisan meats, retro second hand furniture selling well above its original new price, Mediterrean deli, that to me is moving from working class to middle class to me. I can only report what I see changed over the last 25 years. In general I don't see the same change on Teesside I am afraid in fact some areas appear to have gone down hill. The average person in the street would know what Bosco meant by an Islington Deli and I believe the people on this board are intelligent enough to know to, but want an argument.

Ref Food non-tariff barriers will increase food prices e.g. quality checks - the EEC/EU have always (as a general policy) protected farmers with trade barriers from outside the EEC/EU which in general has kept prices higher with in the EU/EEC than they could be. The majority of politicians within the EEC/EU thought this was right for food security, food quality and to protect rural communities which form a higher percentage of National economies in many Member States than the UK and more importantly their vote can make a big difference in elections. The level of this protection has reduced in recent years - hence mass farmer protests within the EU about low and falling prices, and some EU rules that they say have significantly increased their costs.
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Not since last June, so maybe not too recently. I still don't know what you mean by Angel Islington market though, Chapel Market maybe, it's not far away, just behind the newish shopping centre on Upper
Street, lower end. It's a working class market, the street has a few greasy spoons, a bakery or two, a 'meat market' and other shops that you get in most towns. either side of the stalls.

As far as deli's and artisan bullshyt goes, we have the same around here but we're more spread out. They're in the next street to the bed sits in London, they're a bit further away here. I'm not surprised that during your visit to an exhibition in that area that you didn't notice what else was happening locally, nor that you didn't stray from the small area, but it's how I've described. Walk down trendy Camden Passage but 100 yards down on
Essex Road, turn right at the Green Man and it's different, pop into the Green Man and you'll realise that straight away. Then there's Black stock Road, Finsbury Park, Highbury etc.

The 'Islington deli' nonsense came from an ignorant right wing perspective, for me. It's the bullshyt that's been thrown out from a lazy media, soaked up and pumped back as designed.

Propaganda works.
 
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