Recruitment Team

Well we’ve got chuba who’s on his way out, the club have said he’s injured for the last 6 week rather than saying he’s moving on. My point is chuba has the same value as Coventry’s players who have moved, they have moved them on and found replacements, we’ve stalled and started the season with one arm behind our back
 
My take on it is, the players will be ***ed off with the way chuba is being treated. They know he wants to stay and how popular he is. This will be rubbing off on the players creating a negative vibe in the dressing room. That’s just my theory
 
Coventry sold Gyokores early because Sporting were prepared to stump up the cash and get the deal done. I mean, Coventry are so ‘ahead of the curve’ and organised that they sold their midfielder the night before their game against us. Presumably they’ve known all summer he was going so what took them so long? They haven’t signed a replacement for him yet either.

And look through their list of summer signings. If Boro had signed these lads people would say stuff like ‘project’ and ‘underwhelming’.

Also this is a classic thing that happens with a lot of fans, not just Boro fans but fans in general. Would you rather the club signed a player just to fill a space or for the sake of it - and the complain about ‘panic buys’ or ‘gambles’ if it didn’t work - or would you rather they waited for the players they do want, who’ve been scouted and vetted properly, and spent their money sensibly?

Or do you want it both ways, as per.
 
Head of football has one job, he has all season to plot and plan. Did they not plan for us not going up and what the plan b,s were in that instance. To me it doesn’t look like the case. They have one job and so far the planning is horrific. Not just this season most seasons

Questions need to be asked
 
OneBoro said:
Head of football has one job, he has all season to plot and plan. Did they not plan for us not going up and what the plan b,s were in that instance. To me it doesn’t look like the case. They have one job and so far the planning is horrific. Not just this season most seasons

Questions need to be asked
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You do realise that 'plotting and planning' is not in our own hands don't you? Third parties and being stuck in transfer 'chains' are the issue and we have no control over them. Don't by so myopic blaming the club when destiny is not actually in our hands.

I'm sick of this beating the club with any stick possible when we've had the best season for years, the most positive football for years, we appear to be building long term a la Brentford and Brighton and the future seems bright. Yes there'll be bumps along the way and yes sometimes we'll get frustrated but compare to the Pulis, Warnock or Wilder years. We're moving massively in the right direction. I wish folk would stop feeling all entitled it's really annoying the sh*t out of me.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Coventry are so ‘ahead of the curve’ and organised that they sold their midfielder the night before their game against us. Presumably they’ve known all summer he was going so what took them so long? They haven’t signed a replacement for him yet
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Didn’t affect them spanking us though did it? Our superfans are pinning everything on us losing players, apart from the fact we have made multiple signings.

Some people just write their own narrative to fit the situation.
 
BumTrumpet57 said:
Didn’t affect them spanking us though did it? Our superfans are pinning everything on us losing players, apart from the fact we have made multiple signings.

Some people just write their own narrative to fit the situation.
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Which is pretty much what you are doing
 
BoroMart said:
Which is pretty much what you are doing
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It’s all anyone does, let’s be honest, because nobody outside of those directly involved is privy to the inner workings of transfer deals and internal club business. That’s everyone from journalists to people posting on here, from those who set up Twitter accounts and pretend to have ‘insider info’ through to people in the broadcasting industry. It’s all conjecture and hot air.
 
The way some people go on after we lose a game it's as if we're all on a damaged submarine with the oxygen running out.

At the end of the day, it's just a football team and it's meant to be fun. It's something we all care about deeply about - but surely it should be a source of happiness, not despair?
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
It’s all anyone does, let’s be honest, because nobody outside of those directly involved is privy to the inner workings of transfer deals and internal club business. That’s everyone from journalists to people posting on here, from those who set up Twitter accounts and pretend to have ‘insider info’ through to people in the broadcasting industry. It’s all conjecture and hot air.
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The absolute truth is that I think the local media and fans need to cling onto reasons why things necessarily aren’t fair in football, rather than face up to the facts that we rode fast and loose with a short termist policy for much of the last decade and a half which has left the club in the position of being a stable mid table Championship club, in a world where the club can no longer financially compete with the big boys and has to be ran sustainably.

To overturn that big spending mindset takes time, and it requires a great deal of patience. We’ve got someone in Kieran Scott with experience of implementing such a model, firstly at Burnley, and then at Norwich, and a recruitment analyst team which the only thing I can remark on is the fact they’ve all came with shining reputations from stable top flight clubs who are in the position we want to be in. We’ve got a young manager who had an amazing honeymoon period, and hit choppy waters due to the limitations of a squad built largely using a freewheeling and free spending approach, but has evidently shown enough to his mentality that he’s not going to take complacency lying down. Our acquisitions this summer have been on a base level good. Data analysis of all our signings shows them to be better than what we permanently had on the books on June 1st, 2023, we have signed players with vast amounts of potential who when gradually blooded into the setup will shine.

It’s worth ultimately bearing in mind that it took Brighton and Brentford, the two most similar exponents of our model, at least three years to start showing results. Brighton went through some pretty rough patches under Sami Hyypia at first, and Brentford had the vastly ill fated experiment with Markus Dijkhuizen and Lee Carsley. We arguably (across a league season in the two seasons since we introduced the model) have been one of the top 7-8 sides in the division, so we’re already on a better footing than those two ever were. In a much stronger division than last year, I think we’ll be in a similar position, and I think that we need to steady ourselves for regular playoff challenges until we have built a side capable of promotion. It worked for Birmingham in the early 2000s, it worked for Brentford at the turn of this decade, and it will work for us too. We just cannot afford to be knee jerk and force the club hierarchy into abandoning the captain of the ship prematurely. Keep the faith and stick with this, have trust in the process and it will ultimately deliver.
 
adammarc_98 said:
The absolute truth is that I think the local media and fans need to cling onto reasons why things necessarily aren’t fair in football, rather than face up to the facts that we rode fast and loose with a short termist policy for much of the last decade and a half which has left the club in the position of being a stable mid table Championship club, in a world where the club can no longer financially compete with the big boys and has to be ran sustainably.
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That playing loose and fast period under Monk particularly but also under Pulis left us under invested in young attacking talent. We are still taking our medicine. But it appears that we have recognised this and are building a squad with a succession plan for individual roles. But it will take time, maybe a couple of years to have depth of talent and numerous saleable assets in our squad
 
If we should have learned anything from our failure last year it must be that over reliance on loan signings leaves you at the end of the season with a rebuilding job. As we have found in the past, cough Dave Kitson cough, loan players may not enhance the team or squad at all.

If we have a season of attractive exciting football but fail to reach "The Promised Land" I for one will be perfectly happy. What I hope doesn't happen is that we get supporter forced change of management. A period of stability even if we fall short this year could help us tremendously to not just get promotion but stay there.
 
I don't think we will have 6 loan signings like last season. but sometimes if quality is available on loan that is out of reach any other way its surely the right thing in moderation. A bit of luck in the play offs and with injuries and we would have had promotion without large seasonal debts.
 
There’s no point moaning after 2 games when key players have been out injured and signings are still being negotiated. We’re not willing to overpay anymore and that makes signing the right players more difficult. If we come out of it with a capable squad of bargains and potential who show the right attitude on the pitch, I’ll be happy.
 
We have deservedly lost our first two matches and are bottom.
We are currently on a wing and a prayer.

Our squad is significantly poorer, we have gaping holes at LB, CF and in midfield.
The recruitment has been extremely underwhelming in terms of permanent signings in the last 4 windows.

Now, there is still time to recruit this window, but I'm not seeing how we are heading so obviously in the right direction with Kieran Scott at the wheel.
I hope Gibson doesn't knee jerk and blame Carrick in October.
 
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