Renewing or not…

Linny said:
Do you get admin charge if you buy in person?

They keep chipping away at the wallet one way or another. £15 per season to be a member? 6 games to make it worth while.

Over complicated. Just charge a fair fee per game.
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I don't know whether I'm just getting too old but the chicanery around fees annoys me a lot.



If I wanted to go to Sheff Wed in the West Upper I get the below:

WEST STAND UPPER

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Row 26; Seat 208AdultOver 65Under 18Adult MemberOver 65 MemberUnder 18 Member‪£‬37.00‪£‬0.00‪£‬37.00Remove Item
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Think of amounts that I'm not paying for a ticket.
 
B_G said:
If they left it at £15 it's probably about right but need to bare in mind that wasn't a full season. If it jumped up to say £25 then I don't know if people would bother.

But as Archie alluded to above, one of the main benefits is the 10 priority points as it should help people bump their total above 33 which seems to be the common threshold after the STs. That was enough to get you a Chelsea away ticket this season for example. It would be enough to guarantee you a ticket to a home play off semi or a play off final.

I also got it this season because I like the fact I can have my tickets digitally. (I've left paper tickets at home on more than one occasion, ADHD problems 🤦‍♂️)
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I have never ever not got a ticket that I wanted, or been unable to get a mate one. 10 points isn't going to get me anything.
 
Interesting, but Man Utd are now looking at whether you've used your ticket to gain entry, and enforcing a "two strikes and your ST is revoked" approach.

That's because they have a certain amount of match day revenue attributed to each seat, and obviously if it's sat empty then it makes it more difficult for them to hit those metrics.

They do of course have a resale scheme, which we dont, but interesting that those of us who buy our tickets knowing full well we'll not use them every week could potentially be penalised.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Interesting, but Man Utd are now looking at whether you've used your ticket to gain entry, and enforcing a "two strikes and your ST is revoked" approach.

That's because they have a certain amount of match day revenue attributed to each seat, and obviously if it's sat empty then it makes it more difficult for them to hit those metrics.

They do of course have a resale scheme, which we dont, but interesting that those of us who buy our tickets knowing full well we'll not use them every week could potentially be penalised.
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I feel like TWO strikes is a bit harsh but can see why a club would revoke STs when they aren't being used regularly if they have a waiting list. Could easily miss two or more matches due to illness over a season.
 
Renewed in S/W upper. Until I don’t enjoy going I will keep renewing. Plus with the loyalty scheme it’s the only way to get tickets for Sunderland, Sheffield United etc away.
 
Burnley, Everton or Forest?, Sheff United, Sunderland, Hull, Huddersfield, Bolton, Derby all likely sell outs next season to people with Priority Points?
 
Blimey. All these ways they come up with to make us think we’re getting a good deal. If you don’t want to pay £1.50 every time you buy a ticket with us, well as a gesture of goodwill decided to waive that. All you have to do is give us £15 up front and then we’ll take it off your future purchases.

Honestly, it makes my blood boil. It’s an acceptance, an outright admission, that they’re charging too much or, even worse, just fleecing outright fleecing us. There shouldn’t be a £1.50 charge for anything. It shouldn’t cost me anything to print off something at home and the club’s costs are built into the price of the ticket. The extra charge is just a racket.

It’s an absolute scandal imo.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Blimey. All these ways they come up with to make us think we’re getting a good deal. If you don’t want to pay £1.50 every time you buy a ticket with us, well as a gesture of goodwill decided to waive that. All you have to do is give us £15 up front and then we’ll take it off your future purchases.

Honestly, it makes my blood boil. It’s an acceptance, an outright admission, that they’re charging too much or, even worse, just fleecing outright fleecing us. There shouldn’t be a £1.50 charge for anything. It shouldn’t cost me anything to print off something at home and the club’s costs are built into the price of the ticket. The extra charge is just a racket.

It’s an absolute scandal imo.
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Couldn't agree more the membership scheme should be free or a nominal fee like a fiver. The club would have larger customer base to target future ticketing and merchandise offers. The club seem to be squeezing every penny out of supporters with things like admin fees and its an absolute pittance in the grand scheme of running a championship football club.
 
Glover_elbow said:
Couldn't agree more the membership scheme should be free or a nominal fee like a fiver. The club would have larger customer base to target future ticketing and merchandise offers. The club seem to be squeezing every penny out of supporters with things like admin fees and its an absolute pittance in the grand scheme of running a championship football club.
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All these ‘absolute pittances’ will mount up though - remember we make a loss.

Not sure what the answer is though? I’d love cheaper tickets but I can see why they keep going up, even if I don’t agree with it.
 
I'm going to renew, I can't bare the thought of missing out on something special happening next season.

It would be my luck to not renew and we finish the season as champions on 100 points.
 
MolteniArcore said:
All these ‘absolute pittances’ will mount up though - remember we make a loss.

Not sure what the answer is though? I’d love cheaper tickets but I can see why they keep going up, even if I don’t agree with it.
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I think they could be growing the business more tbh. As we’ve said on here over the past few weeks, the retail operation in particular feels very small-time. There’s never really been an attempt to grow and develop the supporter-base, to engage with and try to entice the town in general since the chairman initially took sole control and he was gearing up for the Riverside Revolution. It feels like quite a stagnant football club at times.
 
The new payment plan has done it for me, without that, I wouldn’t have renewed for the first time in over 30 years. Happy days.
 
MolteniArcore said:
All these ‘absolute pittances’ will mount up though - remember we make a loss.

Not sure what the answer is though? I’d love cheaper tickets but I can see why they keep going up, even if I don’t agree with it.
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I dont think they add up though, its like putting pennies in a copper jar towards a 2 grand mortgage
 
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MolteniArcore said:
All these ‘absolute pittances’ will mount up though - remember we make a loss.

Not sure what the answer is though? I’d love cheaper tickets but I can see why they keep going up, even if I don’t agree with it.
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We lose £21m a year!
No matter how many owners we might have they are restricted in the amount they can pay in through FFP. Look at mega wealthy Bet 365 Stoke City - they still cannot invest any more to plug black holes in their budget.
 
fmttmadmin said:
We lose £21m a year!
No matter how many owners we might have they are restricted in the amount they can pay in through FFP. Look at mega wealthy Bet 365 Stoke City - they still cannot invest any more to plug black holes in their budget.
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But this is the stupid thing about football. Any business that loses £21m a year just isn’t a viable business, unless you have someone prepared to cover those losses. In terms of Boro, our supporters are paying some of the highest ticket prices in the country and are doing their bit. The crowds are high this season and were for much of last. This is without things like food, drinks, merch, hospitality, all the rest of it. Also without factoring in cup revenue, TV broadcast money, etc.

Maybe you just have to say the Boro can’t really compete at the moment. If you’re losing £21m and are in a position where you’re passing £1.50 charges onto a supporter-base that already pays over the odds then you probably just need to accept that you’re not very good at running a football club. Or have unrealistic expectations on what you can do with it.

If the owner is no longer happy to cover the losses then surely he should just sell up. I’m not saying I want him to, but he makes the choice to pay out the money.

It’s just stuff like this, an extra £1.50 here and there on top of everything else, when they’ve just sold another player for at least £10m, that gets people’s backs up. You print off a ticket in your own house and it costs extra money. It’s disgusting. It’s about time people with influence started calling it out imo.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
But this is the stupid thing about football. Any business that loses £21m a year just isn’t a viable business, unless you have someone prepared to cover those losses. In terms of Boro, our supporters are paying some of the highest ticket prices in the country and are doing their bit. The crowds are high this season and were for much of last. This is without things like food, drinks, merch, hospitality, all the rest of it. Also without factoring in cup revenue, TV broadcast money, etc.

Maybe you just have to say the Boro can’t really compete at the moment. If you’re losing £21m and are in a position where you’re passing £1.50 charges onto a supporter-base that already pays over the odds then you probably just need to accept that you’re not very good at running a football club. Or have unrealistic expectations on what you can do with it.

If the owner is no longer happy to cover the losses then surely he should just sell up. I’m not saying I want him to, but he makes the choice to pay out the money.

It’s just stuff like this, an extra £1.50 here and there on top of everything else, when they’ve just sold another player for at least £10m, that gets people’s backs up. You print off a ticket in your own house and it costs extra money. It’s disgusting. It’s about time people with influence started calling it out imo.
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I'd go a step further than that. If you're constantly having to factor your income from sales of players, you're borderline corporately incompetent, unless there's some sort of weird reason why you need to consistently lose a substantial percentage of one of your major sources of income.
 
fmttmadmin said:
We lose £21m a year!
No matter how many owners we might have they are restricted in the amount they can pay in through FFP. Look at mega wealthy Bet 365 Stoke City - they still cannot invest any more to plug black holes in their budget.
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That’s some figure Rob! Like I said, I’d love cheaper tickets but I can see why prices go up and admin fees are added. We are very lucky to have an owner who keeps us solvent when we are losing that much a season.
 
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